Cris, What you call horoscope, my Mom and I call it Astrological Map... Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! And our Astrologer too... Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! They are just names... But they have the same meaning. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Love, Nelson
Cris: I follow the Onion's horoscope's religiously! For instance, your horoscope reads: And mine reads: I am, like, inspired! http://www.theonion.com/onion3813/horoscopes_3813.html
Xev Libra: (Sept. 23—Oct. 23) No one would go to Salina, KS, without stopping for a world-famous Cozee Burger—except you. Very true!!! Dont eat burgersPlease Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
(Q) Heyyy!! Don't insult Banshee. From the time I have been on these forums (which I must admit however, hasn't been that long, but enough to suffice for this), and spoken to Bashee, I have not seem anything wrong with her.
Counterbalance ... (There ARE differences between dragons and talented balrogs, ya know! ) That there be. Although I must say, the talented ones taste a bit better, if memory serves me right, than the run-of-the-mill ones. Not quite as 'gamey'. I'll check on my next trip to Middle-earth. Take care Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
For the record - I enjoy both Bebelina's and Banshee's posts. I rarely agree with anything they say of course, but they say things so nicely that they make me feel guilty when I disagree with them. Sigh!
GOD, You’ll see better resolution with the more advanced programs. But there is a limit to what Astrology can do even with the best programs. You’ll still be stuck with generalities. OK, rejecting something like this is no big deal but your reasoning is very dubious. Astrology is not about trying to predict events. What it tries to do is predict how ones personality might be affected by planetary positions. I’ll take the example of shyness again - There may be a point in the future where the planets are in a position that would be beneficial for a shy person to be more assertive. But this affect won’t be realized unless the shy person attempts to be assertive at the appropriate time. It is these procedures of ‘progressing the chart’ that I found extremely subjective and the least accurate. Hmmm, accurate is not the correct term – just plain wrong, and for what I saw was 90% of the time. And at that success rate just guessing would be more accurate. But for those who believe that these mechanisms are true there tends to be a strong temptation to stretch the point to make the predictions appear to work, and they succeed because the predictions are so general. Hope that helps Cris
The point I was trying to make is that predicting events is "stronger" than predicting personality traits. There was this study done on college students where they were asked to fill out a questionaire, and then based upon their replies, a "personality assessment" was prepared. Alomst all said that the assessment was very accurate and describes them well. The catch was that every student was given the exact same assessment! Astrology seems to be playing on the same theme. It's possible that birth times have an effect on personality, but IMO the greater effect is contributed by astrology sections in newspapaers and "Linda Goodman". Ppl read about what traits their sign ought to have, and then try find ways to live up to that description.
stRgrl.. check out the second part of this analysis, it's probably the same as yours(haven't seen your first part), yes I'm a Libran too but I doubt that we were born in the same place at the same time (Sep241952,Cyprus)! You are very strong-willed and proud, but intensely private and not easy to know well. Behind your quiet exterior lies a great deal of emotional depth, sensitivity, complexity, and also fierce determination. When you want something you go after it rather quietly but insistently and wholeheartedly - and you usually get it.Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! You are not a person who lives lightly or superficially. You want to live passionately and intensely and are not averse to challenge, danger, or to facing the darker side of life - human pain and struggle. You function well in crisis situations and often seek them out, for you enjoy the feeling of living at full capacity.Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! You are very intuitive about other people and especially about their unspoken feelings and hidden motives. You usually have strong, immediate gut reactions, either positive or negative, which prove to be correct. You approach life very instinctively and are not always fully conscious of why you feel or act as you do. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! You also have a very strong affinity with animals - an acute sensitivity and a nonverbal kind of rapport with them. In relation to others, you are rather cautious, sometimes even suspicious, until you get to know and trust them - and trust doesn't come easily to you. When you commit yourself emotionally to someone, be it friend or lover, you are intensely loyal and devoted to them and you also expect the same kind of unwavering, undying loyalty in return. If you are ever betrayed by someone you care deeply for, you are capable of hating and retaliating with as much fervor as you once loved. Nothing is done halfway. In fact, you are intensely involved and often jealously attached to whatever you care about, be it person, idea, or cause. There is definitely a streak of emotional fanaticism in you.Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Because of your natural reserve, others may see you as something of an enigma. You are quite self-protective and often defensive. You are also very magnetic, especially to members of the opposite sex.Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Harmony and balance are your keynotes. You instinctively understand the need to accommodate other peoples' interests and desires, and you are always fair and willing to meet the other person half way. Tactful, diplomatic, and with considerable social awareness, you do all you can to avoid conflict and discord. You express a spirit of cooperation and compromise and often achieve through charm and discretion what would have been impossible to achieve by a direct, forceful approach. Getting along with others and pleasing them may be TOO important to you, for you can be too dependent on others' approval and opinions to make your own decisions. You will rarely act without getting the counsel and feedback of other people. You prefer sharing and doing things together rather than on your own. Being alone feels very unnatural to you, and you have a strong need for a partner and intimate one-to-one relationships. You invest a great deal of your energy in personal love and you are very idealistic and romantic about marriage. You seek a partner who is your equal intellectually, and who is capable of a mental relationship as well as a physical and emotional one. You make a thoughtful, considerate friend or lover, and you enjoy the traditional symbols of love - courtship, flowers, etc. Relationships are like an art to you, one that requires time, attention, and creative effort. You appreciate a partner who is subtle and polished, never coarse or dull or blunt. Fairness and equality, both in your personal life and in the world, are extremely important to you. If you fight about anything, it is often about something you feel is unfair and unbalanced. Balance is very important to you and you believe in moderation in all things, avoiding fanaticism and extremism of any sort. You also have a strong need for beautiful, harmonious surroundings and a natural sense of artistic style and grace, which is reflected in the way you dress, furnish and arrange your home and workspace, etc. Everything must be aesthetically pleasing and appropriate. Either working with people as a counselor, advisor, consultant, or negotiator - or in an artistic field such as design or photography, would be fulfilling to you. As a general personality profile (or as an idealistic potential of it) for me, I guess this is pretty close to the bone and pretty impressive considering it was computed by a machine using an ancient system of codes or whatever. I'm not so convinced of its 'personal' inference and it would be interesting to compare the first part of your analysis to see if they match as I suspect that most, if not all, the analysies for each sign are actually the same, regardless of time, date or place of birth.
OK hees my take on astrology.... When I was younger i used to follow it with a fair amount of enthusiasm. I admit, it was in fact Linda Goodman who seemed to make the most sense, and I used her take on the situation as a benchmark. Time goes on... and now I wonder, even if it DOES indeed have some validity (which, to be honest, I'd LIKE to believe cause i always found it so ... ya know... interestingly accurate), does it actually have a purpose or any practical use? OK, heres the situation. Astrology uses the Sun, Moon, Ascendant and Descendant, and then 12 planets to plot any given personality. This gives a total of 14 to the power of 14 possible personality combinations right? ie... that means there are about 11,112,006,825,558,016 possible personality permutations. Not only that, but of course your upbringing and environment is also going to have a serious effect on things, not to mention your life experiences... so even if, by some incredible chance, two persons were born on the same day, at the same instant, in the same town, their lives will still be different due to outside influences.(say if one was born rich and one poor). So I cant see what practical use it really has. All that aside though... damn astrology is fun aint it Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
Oh yeah... one more point. If you know how computers, storage space, and the web really works... then dont trust an astrology website to give you an accurate personality chart. It aint gonna happen... there are too many people in the world to have all the possible personality combinations in storage. Not only that, youre trusting someone to make an estimate of your personality who cant even see your face, know where you live, and profile you based on a few bits of entered data.. Eventually there will be two people who type in some info and come up with the same profile, because the computer space cant handle too many interpretations. Who the hell is gonna type them all in? One thousand monkeys with one thousand typewriters? The NET is a fine place for factual information.... but if youre looking for an assessment not based on facts, seek elsewhere.
It's completely right for me, I never have doubted astrology, but this is better than I expected. Don't have a credit card for those 14$Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! How You Approach Life and How You Appear To Others Ferociously proud and somewhat vain, you like to be impressive and to be seen as Somebody Special. You are not timid, meek, or self-effacing, and are rarely content being in the background or in the subordinate position. You are a natural leader, and do not take orders from others very well. You must have something of your own, something creative - be it a business, a project, a home or whatever - that you can develop and manage according to your own will and vision. Whatever you do, you do it in a unique, dramatic, individual way. You like to put your own personal stamp on it. You also have a very strong sense of dignity, self-respect, and personal honor and are deeply offended if someone treats you in a humiliating or dishonorable way. You will rarely confront the offender - you are too proud to do so - but you will lose your affection and respect for them. You dislike pettiness and hate to be snubbed or ignored. You admire others who are strong individuals like yourself. When you befriend someone, you are tremendously loyal, sincere, and willing to go to extraordinary lengths to make that person happy. You are very giving and generous, but your gifts are never anonymous - you expect recognition and appreciation for them. You also expect the intense loyalty that you offer to your dear ones to be reciprocated. However, you often have trouble working with people who are as strong as yourself, for you do not really cooperate or share the leading role very easily. If you are not in the leading role, you aspire to be and will compete with the person who is. You have great heart and courage, and people often look to you for strength, encouragement, and affirmation. You always have your best face forward and rarely allow others to see you hurting, disheartened, or vulnerable. You also have a very strong need for love, admiration, appreciation, and praise, although you don't like others to realize just how important it is to you. Your outlook on life tends to be very personal and rather self-centered. Your own self-expression, self-actualization and self-realization interests you more than anything else. You feel that if you do your best where you are, the rest of the world will take care of itself. Serious, disciplined, and quietly ambitious, you are driven to prove yourself and to achieve material accomplishments and success. Your work, your position in the world, and your contributions to society are very important to you. You will persevere through enormous hardship and frustration in order to reach a goal you have set for yourself, and you often sacrifice much in the area of personal relationships and home life in order to do so. You have a thoughtful, quiet, and self-contained disposition and do not readily show your inner feelings and needs. You seem to be always in control, capable, efficient, and strong. You are often the person in the family or group who is given more responsibility (and more work) than the others. You are highly conscientious and even as a child you possessed a maturity, soberness, and worldly wisdom that was most unchildlike. You are basically a pragmatic realist, and though you may have all sorts of dreams, ideals and colorful theories, you feel that the ultimate test of a concept is its practical usefulness. You have an innate shrewdness and business sense, and there is a bit of the cynic in you as well. You are clear-headed, detached and objective, and are not swayed by emotional dramatics. Often you are authoritarian -strictly fair, but without mercy. You have a great respect for tradition (not great, but I have my respect for it) and even if you do not agree with certain laws, you will abide by them or work to change them, but never flagrantly disregard them. Careful and conservative, you play by the rules. You are subtle, understated, quiet, deep, not easy to know intimately, and never superficial. You are a modest person and sometimes overly self-critical. Giving yourself (and others) permission to feel, to play, to be spontaneous and silly, and to be weak and vulnerable sometimes, isn't easy for you. Your strong points are your depth and thoroughness, patience, tenacity, and faithfulness. Your faults are a tendency to be rigid and inflexible, and too serious. =========================================== You are a natural diplomat, reasonable, tolerant, fair, always willing to listen to varying viewpoints, and ready to see the other side of an issue. Even if you strongly disagree with someone, you will try to find points of similarity and agreement rather than emphasizing the differences. You often avoid taking an extreme or one-sided stance on anything. You have a strong desire for harmonious and pleasant relationships, and express a spirit of cooperation, compromise, friendship, and fairness. You very much want to be liked and because of your need for approval and acceptance, you are easily influenced by others' opinions, especially when young. You so much want to please that often you will suppress your own intense or unpleasant feelings in order not to offend others. Sometimes your politeness is interpreted as phoniness or wishy-washiness. Your need to create harmony extends to your physical environment and personal appearance as well. You appreciate beauty and have a natural sense of balance, symmetry, and proportion. You do everything in good taste, with a sense of style and art. From your home furnishings to your choice of clothing, everything must be aesthetically appealing, not simply functional or utilitarian. You also feel that relationships are an art, one that especially interests you and one that you are usually quite skilled at, for you possess tact and acute awareness of other people. Marriage is very significant to you and finding the right person to share your life with is extremely important. Being part of a close couple seems natural to you - you are not an independent loner. Having a partner increases your self-confidence. You do have a tendency, however, to become overly dependent on your partner and perhaps not to develop a clearly defined identity outside of the relationship. Finding the balance between being yourself and blending and uniting with another is a challenge for you. Others see you as an agreeable, smooth, harmonious, and "nice" person. Though there may be much more to you, this is the sort of face you show to the world. You possess personal charm and an understated, noncombative manner. Your motto could be "you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar" for you usually take a friendly, cooperative approach rather than a strong, forceful, I'm-going-to-conquer-the-world attitude.
(LOL!) Yeah? Well, the thing is, Chagur... TRULY “talented balrogs” can both run and fly faster than dragons. (It’s a mind-over-matter sort of thing. Just one of the many talents we possess. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! ) Not to mention we‘re rather adept at shape-shifting as well. That “gamey” taste you noted? Bah! That ‘tweren’t gaminess, my fiery friend! That was gangrene! (bleeeecch!) Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! I suspect you’ve mistaken charred orc roadkill for balrog. Plus, as dragons age, their notoriously good eyesight can start to play tricks on ‘em. They sometimes tend to see what they want to see, ya know? Sigh. Happens to the best of ’em. But don’t fret. When the moment of doom comes, dragons seldom care what they scorch and consume anyway, so it’s hardly something to be concerned about. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! All the same, DO drop a line next time you’re headed to Middle Earth. Been faarrrrrrr too long since we’ve had a decent bit of dragon for dinner. Been saving a special bottle of wine just for the occasion. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Now, y’all take care--hear? Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
Cris ... "I’ll accept your criticism gladly if you’ve also done the in-depth investigation necessary to reach an informed opinion. Have you?" Nix. Just had a mother who started out with Tarot cards, then got into astrology heavy like: Started to write a book on it, never finished it. Being the critical, 'doubting Thomas' that I am (even at a young age) I questioned the accuracy of any 'prediction' based on birth date, time, location, or whatever, since the individual had to have been acted upon by whatever forces since conception. Further, considering the wide variation in lengths of pregnancy, even two individuals born at the same moment, in the same place, could not have been acted upon by exactly the same forces for the same period of time. Mum never did come up with what I considered to be a reasonable answer ... So I wrote it off a pleasant game that seldom caused harm. Care to have a go at it? Take care Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
Counterbalance ... One thing I've noticed is that the more talented ones are also more curious than the 'run-of-the-mill' ones. This observation proved useful when age slowed down this dragon ... and craftiness came to the fore. Lay flopped down as though dead for a while, and this is the important part, leaving one's tongue hanging out. The r-o-t-m ones continue to avoid even a 'dead' dragon, but the curious, talented ones, who evidently have a taste for dragon's tongue,will eventually land and approach. Belch!!!! Burp!!!! Nothing like freshly seared balrog. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Take care (and avoid 'dead' dragons with their tongues lolling out) Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
I would say that the site you have found never thought that the ones who sought a reading of their personalities would ever compare notes. It is obvious that its data base is rather skimpy. Like many others have mentioned here I once was interested in astrology and tarot. Afterall if so many people are interested then maybe there was something to it. I have long ago thrown away the astronomical charts for planetary positions, ect. I did come to some conclusions about both of them though. A lot of people took a lot of time to document nuances of human behavor, characteristics, and their interactions. It has enough truth in the above items to fool people into thinking this is it. I have found a way to get hints on the future. Actually what they have found is that all peoples face common trials, tribulations, joys, and gains/losses. Doesn't matter the government, continent, or social status so much. Human interaction provides enough common basis that observation over a long period will give some simular grounds for the interactions. That people can be catagorized into groups that feel, react, and think in simular forms. One thing I did find of interest is that the tarot is reputed to be an early message cyphering device. One that could be given to a messenger with little fear of the message being intercepted and read.
Wet1, you placed yourself between a rock and a hard place...Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! It's comparing lemons with oranges. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!