I'm not alone...

Discussion in 'Free Thoughts' started by TruthSeeker, Apr 11, 2002.

  1. goofyfish Analog By Birth, Digital By Design Valued Senior Member

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    Ahhhh..... quantum mechanics.
    SOMEwhere, SOMEtime, we are having a
    lucid and rational discussion with Nelson.

    Almost brings tears to my eyes.

    Peace.
     
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  3. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    Xev,

    I wonder what people did and thought when they heard his ideas for the first time......

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    I did... and if not, what's the problem in making up a new term that describes it so well...

    Imagination is the key to unlock the unknown... if you are not open-minded you will ever stay where you are. That's what's happening with you, Cris, tyle, (Q), goofyfish...

    1. Observe
    2. Make up a hyphothesis to describe it.
    3. Use it to make predictions
    4. Test it...
    5. Repeat steps 3 and 4 until the theory and observation and/or experiment coincides...
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      Satisfied....?

      I use metaphors when I lack words to describe it...
      And you interpret the words literally...

      I'm not being arrogant... I'm just pieced of because people attack me with no reason... I'm not attacking anyone... so why people attack me? Only because my ideas destroies the basic conceptions of your beliefs making you ungrounded in relation to your net of beliefs necessary to give you a reason for your existance and for the world that you see as you see it...?? :bugeye:

      Love,
      Nelson
     
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  5. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    <i>Even though all those who have new ideas are persecuted and stoned, in the end, they are always proved right... </i>

    Can't you think of ONE idea which was proved wrong? Not all ideas are right, you know.

    "They all laughed at Einstein..."
    "Yes, but they all laughed at Bozo the Clown, too."
     
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  7. Barney_TRubble Banned Banned

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    Aaaaahhhh Bebelina... but that's something completely different from what these people are looking for isn't it

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  8. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    Barney_TRubble,

    Not exactly...
    That's what I'm looking for...

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    Love,
    Nelson
     
  9. Tyler Registered Senior Member

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    And the Nelson ego continues......

    "Imagination is the key to unlock the unknown... if you are not open-minded you will ever stay where you are. That's what's happening with you, Cris, tyle, (Q), goofyfish..."

    (by the way, it's Tyler)

    "wonder what people did and thought when they heard his ideas for the first time......"

    (they asked for evidence and proof, he delivered, they started to believe him)

    "My ideas are really crazy,... I'm very innovative and I have a good... imagination...
    But that's exactly what makes good scientists..."

    "Cris... I studied those things... I know what I'm talking about..."

    (you aren't out of high school and you have advanced knowledge of quantam mechanics and such?? Explain to me how you can be both one of the leading scientific minds of our generation and an idiot who can't spell Tyler)
     
  10. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    Tyler,

    I'm taling about when he was about 16, 17 years old and had no money to do the experiments and get the evidences to prove his experiments...

    Who said I have advanced knowledge on such thing? I just read some books about it... And understood it......
    An idiot don't write fast enough in oreder to spell a word wrong...

    Love,
    Nelson
     
  11. Tyler Registered Senior Member

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    "Cris... I studied those things... I know what I'm talking about..."

    You suggested you know enough about very advanced science to come up with completely new theories and prove them.

    That to me sounds pretty advanced.



    By the way, don't use the typing too fast bullshit on me. I invented that shit. When I was 10 they diagnosed me as retarted because I would leave out full sentances or stop half way through a word because my mind went faster than my pen.
     
  12. Northwind Master of Anvils Registered Senior Member

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    I read this stuff, from people who seem to want to believe anything that is "renegade" or outside the general scientific community. Things that have no basis in reality, for which there is zero evidence, and it makes me sad. Don't these gullible freaks know how much real wonder there is within REAL science? Why make up stupid crapola?

    It is like Carl Sgan never lived sometimes...*sigh*
     
  13. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    Tyler,

    Btw... I don't remember what I've said I studied...
    Anyways... I think I studied them enough to understand them and to explore them a little bit further...

    Well... I honestly was typing to fast to see it...
    Sometimes I even look for mistakes after posting and edit it... that wasn't the case...

    Northwind,

    Want evidence for my ideas? Observe Nature carefully and remember things what I've said... how those things are expressed in Nature? Take a look... Observe... That's how we start our ideas isn't?

    My ideas don't need rational evidence becasue the evidence of my ideas are already in Nature.

    Just observe...

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    Love,
    Nelson
     
  14. Northwind Master of Anvils Registered Senior Member

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    You are in desperate need of having an anvil dropped on your pointless skull.
     
  15. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    Go and look dammit!!!

    Next time if you say you are open-mined I would laugh very much...

    You didn't even looked!!!
    You just say: It's wrong.
    You don't even think, you don't even reason about it!!!!!!!!

    *sights...

    I'm tired of your kind of people...

    Goodbye...
     
  16. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Truthseeker,

    You haev an ego the size of a planet. Better move out of home and get a real job while you still know everything.
     
  17. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    I'm just trying to pass new ideas to closed-minded people...
    You know... I could just let them to their on fate, as they wish...
    But I don't give up that easy helping people...

    One by one will understand what I'm saying...

    It seems a little bit egocentric... that's true...
    But I'm focusing on what I can do for you.

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    Love,
    Nelson
     
  18. Tyler Registered Senior Member

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    Look at it how we see it Nelson.

    Damn near every philosopher in the history of known thought has reached the conclusion that they do not know all the answers.

    You on the other hand, at the age of 18, believe that you know everything. You believe that you scientifically prove the existence of God when none of the brilliant scientists over history have done no such thing. You believe you are more intelligent and open minded than every other human being. You believe you have reached the pinacle of understanding. You compare yourself to Einstein.

    You're the most egotistical person I've actually ever met. I've heard people jokingly talk about themselves in high praise, but I have never at all heard someone believe themselves when they think as highly of themselves as you do.
     
  19. Cris In search of Immortality Valued Senior Member

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    truthseeker,

    I’m not sure if you are just stupid or just plain ignorant of the effects of your posts.

    Do you have any idea how offensive your post is?

    1. You are arrogantly assuming that people want to be helped whether they want it or not. Most people will resent unsolicited advice especially from an arrogant immature juvenile such as yourself.

    2. You are insulting nearly everyone here by calling them close-minded.

    3. You are again arrogantly assuming that what you have to say people will want to hear.

    4. Egocentric? Massively egotistical and conceited fit much better.

    5. Uh heck – you aren’t worth the effort.

    Grow up a bit kiddo. You are way out of line.

    Cris
     
  20. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    I'm tired of your kind of people...

    Goodbye...


    You shouldn't say goodbye. Once you've moved out of your parents basement and enter the real world of responsibility, you'll be dealing with people like us every moment of every day. That is, of course, if you ever move out of your parents basement.

    I'm just trying to pass new ideas to closed-minded people...
    You know... I could just let them to their on fate, as they wish...
    But I don't give up that easy helping people...


    I find it rather interesting that you think people need your help and your ideas. Who are you to decide that?

    One by one will understand what I'm saying...

    No, one by one you'll isolate yourself from the world. You'll be left to die a despot. Is that the life you are looking forward to living? The Q may be stretching the spectrum here morbidly, but I'm sure you get the gist of the long term prognosis.

    The Q would suggest hanging around Jehovah's Witness' for a while, perhaps even joining up to their "team." At least you'll gain some experience on the proper methods of manipulating the weak minded.

    Unfortunaely, at this time, you're failing miserably in that department.
     
  21. Xev Registered Senior Member

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    Nelson: So be it. If you cannot stand the heat of a little skepticism, get out of the kitchen.

    Boy, you are not Einstien. You aren't Tesla and you aren't Galileo. No-one is persecuting you, and the most you have suffered is a bit of frustrated teasing.

    For one who accused me of arrogance, you need to grow up a bit. You know the secrets of the universe? At 18? I've had two years of college now, I am your age, and I don't know jack shit. What makes you think you are so different?

    We aren't looking for your help. We are interested in what you have to say, but aren't looking to convert. Few people are.

    I know we sound harsh, but you will deal with people who are a whole lot harsher. You'll have to learn to deal with us.

    Good luck boy.
     
  22. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    Tyler,

    What!?!?!?! I've never said such things!!!!! :bugeye:


    Cris,

    First, I've never adressed those posts to any of you, did I?
    Second, there are people here who WANT to listen to me... so I won't lose my time with your childish attacks.

    It's not an insult, is just the truth...

    As I said... open-minded people exist...

    Really? Have you ever looked to a mirror?

    ... well, you certainly aren't...

    I would say this to you...


    (Q),

    I already visited some jungles before...

    I didn't... people asked me...

    That's not what my friends have been saying... I won't say what they say here, as this would be a real egocentrism...

    After I began to speak up I won much my friends. Now I have more then the triple of friends I had before. Why with them it works? Because they understand what I say... And they don't attack me...

    I don't work only with the mind...

    Departament... which departament...?


    Xev,

    That's actually the best advice I received in this thread...
    I'm, unfortunatly, pretty worried about the way some people treat others here...

    I'm persecuted... at least it's what it seems...
    I present an idea an those guys attack them like hungry sharks... they don't even READ it!! They just write: wrong... only because they are mine...

    I didn't accused you... I said that there are some people here that are... you are not the case. You are actually pretty kind and neat...

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    Well... I certainly had some experiences that proved things that I never imagined before. "Mystical Experience", for example. Do you really think I just believed in what I'm telling you here? I experienced it through meditations, "mystical experiences" and even studing... I didn't want to cite those things here... but as you are asking....

    Other thing that I don't like to say... Yes... people ask my opinion and my "help" in some things... but not through the forums...
    "We are interested in what you have to say". You certainly are... but those other guys certainly are only listening to themselves. They don't even try to understand it...! They just begin to attack it!!

    Yeah... I know... I realized that today at church...
    It's a good trainament though...
    This world is a mess...
    And that's because this kind of people, as above, is in the power...

    They are more interested in their brains then actually the people that live in the planet...

    Love,
    Nelson
     
  23. Tyler Registered Senior Member

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    You on the other hand, at the age of 18, believe that you know everything. You believe that you scientifically prove the existence of God when none of the brilliant scientists over history have done no such thing. You believe you are more intelligent and open minded than every other human being. You believe you have reached the pinacle of understanding. You compare yourself to Einstein.

    - You say you never said any of these things. So, like a true debater, I shall prove them all.

    Scientifically proving god - I believe I can leave this alone as it was the title of one of your threads

    More open-minded and intelligent than all of us - REPEATADLY saying we are simply not able to understand your genius and are (and I quote) 'simply truth' not as open minded as you

    Pinnacle of understanding - If you understand the way the universe works, it's nature, human nature and God....you have reached what I would consider the pinnacle of understanding.



    "Second, there are people here who WANT to listen to me... so I won't lose my time with your childish attacks."

    Can you quote his childish attacks? The quote you used their was far from childesh!



    'It's not an insult, is just the truth... "

    And the ego goes on.....and on......and on....



    "I already visited some jungles before..."

    Germany, Switzerland, France, England, Brazil (thorugh the Amazon - done that yet?), Argentina, Barbados, Jamaica, all across Canada, 21 States, Denmark, Sweden, Mexico, Antigua, Spain, Russia. And when I name a country, I don't mean just the capital city (though that's usually where the plane lands), I mean the small towns and native areas.



    "I didn't... people asked me..."

    What? Where? Who? When?


    "After I began to speak up I won much my friends. Now I have more then the triple of friends I had before. Why with them it works? Because they understand what I say... And they don't attack me..."

    So let me get this straight; 'my friends think I'm cool so poopy to you!'



    "I present an idea an those guys attack them like hungry sharks... they don't even READ it!! They just write: wrong... only because they are mine..."

    I've read every word you've written. That's how I can quote you so much.....genius.



    Truthseeker, you are the least open minded person I have ever met. You have yet once to consider that you are wrong in any way.

    That is the definition of closed minded.
     

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