Signs of Self-Awareness!

Discussion in 'General Philosophy' started by TruthSeeker, Apr 3, 2002.

  1. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    Barney_TRubble,

    Perhaps I stopped...
    But those answers are really neat...

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    Mainly because they addapt perfectly to my cause.

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    Ender,

    My point is to show that those who Love everyone unconditionally will always be in peace with themselves. And through Love, anything bad can be done. For example, if you Love someone, can you kill this person? Can you steal? Can you disrespect? No!!! Because you Love this person!!

    Love is the way to world peace.

    I know it's hard to expect everyone to Love...
    But when people realize that the Great Treasures are inside ourselves, not in cars, money and power (just to cite some...); then, they will stop fighting with each other and Love will take place.

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    Love is the Greatest Treasure.

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    Love,
    Nelson
     
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  3. Tyler Registered Senior Member

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    "But when people realize that the Great Treasures are inside ourselves, not in cars, money and power (just to cite some...); then, they will stop fighting with each other and Love will take place.

    Love is the Greatest Treasure"

    So let me get this straight. You think every single human being is the exact same as you? You think what makes you happy makes everyone else happy?


    And the ego goes on........and on........and on........
     
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  5. Barney_TRubble Banned Banned

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    Truthseeker...

    Alright, So the answers you've found for you are what you were looking for.

    But for some of us, those very same answers dont fit the bill. to some of us they seem even ridiculous, and leave an emptiness which was there before AND after religion. What then? we come on here and talk about stuff instead.

    I think that what most people rebel against is not neccesarily that you have found what YOU'RE looking for... but that you believe it's what WE'RE looking for. See?
     
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  7. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    Tyler,

    No... I'm saying that Loving everyone unconditionally prevents the existance of wars, nuclear bombs, etc......

    Besides that... living in peace and harmony surely makes everyone happy...

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    Barney_TRubble,

    Just trying to say that Loving each other unconditionally is better than what we are doing now with all those wars and this fear...

    I agree with you, though...

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    Just passing my view of the world....

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    Love,
    Nelson
     
  8. Cris In search of Immortality Valued Senior Member

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    truthseeker,

    No that can’t work unless both sides agree on the same thing. Unilateral loving will fail especially if it is promoted by a religion.

    Partly, except for those people who thrive on aggression and challenge. Do you suggest we should kill them off?

    Sure go ahead and hug a suicide bomber.

    It seems to me that improved education and increased understanding of the views of others would be far more worthwhile than trying to reduce everyone to a soporific emotional hell.

    Cris
     
  9. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    Cris,

    ...UNCONDITIONAL Love...
    ... No rational arguments....

    Those who are NOT Loved and never been Loved are exactly those who are agressive...

    It seems to me that you someday will be a suicide bomber...

    Sure I hug you!!

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    Love,
    Nelson
     
  10. Merlijn curious cat Registered Senior Member

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    "go ahead and hug a suicide bomber."

    Which part(s)? I have a collection of 12 identifyable parts and some 45 other pieces (assorted).
     
  11. Cris In search of Immortality Valued Senior Member

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    ts,

    Sorry, I didn’t understand that answer. What do you mean?

    Why? I don’t see how you reached that conclusion.

    Cris
     
  12. Tyler Registered Senior Member

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    truthseekr.

    You suggest that all wars and everything would end if we all just realized Love and Loved and were Loved. Correct?

    Now follow my logic for a second here, but isn't that counter-human nature? Humans are naturally aggresive. We have evolved that way because it was necessary to survive.
     
  13. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    Cris,

    You wrote:
    I answered:
    I meant that you don't need a rational argument for the "two sides" to agree as the Love is UNCONDITIONAL. If you Love UNCONDITIONALLY you don't need to have a rational argument.

    By the way you speak about Love...


    Tyler,

    Yes! I agree...!!
    But isn't it time for our evolution...??

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    We don't need our agressiveness anyomer to survive...
    Time for our evolution!!

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    Love,
    Nelson
     
  14. Ender Registered Senior Member

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    Truth,

    This was awhile back, but it is still relevant. Have you heard of jealousy? It can make people want to kill the person that they love, because they are mad at them for dating, talking to, whatever, with. It is very easy to kill, steal, and disrespect someone.

    IN the first book of the bible, doesn't it say that adam, and eve were perfect? Then didn't they become evil? It seems that eveloution prefers a good----Evil pregression. So truth, you want to reverse eveloution? Survival of the fittest...
     
  15. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    Ender,

    Jealousy is NOT Love, it's need and possession. Love has nothing to do with need, possession or attachment. Love is completly UNCONDITIONAL.

    Honestly and respectly, human beings still don't know neither understand what Love is...

    The Bible, by that, means that we forgot our true identity (to be like God, Love). It was not an evolution, it was a regression...
    And we have been regressing for a loooong time...

    Love,
    Nelson
     
  16. A4Ever Knows where his towel is Registered Senior Member

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    I still would like to know what a buddhist monk would do when somebody violently raped his mother.

    Would he love the rapist?

    I am -of course- mentioning this only to get some clarification on the love concept.

    There seems to be an incongruency between everyday life ethics and love/energy theories.

    (I started a thread about appliance of big ideas in everyday life, check it out!

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  17. kmguru Staff Member

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    Tools of self-awareness...

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    Just kidding....
     
  18. kmguru Staff Member

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    The fundamental basis of Buddhist is "Detachment". One lives the life without anyemotional attachment which can cause sorrow and misery. But to live, one has to do live like a drop of water on a lotus leaf (or a wax paper- if you can not imagine the leaf). You touch the material world yet stay separate from this world.

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  19. A4Ever Knows where his towel is Registered Senior Member

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    then is there any difference between being a buddhist monk and being completely numb?

    So the buddhist would do nothing about the rape?

    I told you, there IS a problem between everyday life and philosophy.

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  20. kmguru Staff Member

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    Human beings have been trying to find a balance between chemical urges and body functions and everyday life for thousands of years. The ultimate solution is to have control over your bodily functions or lose the body.

    Sex is a natural part of human beings as is hunger, sadness, happiness etc. After all, we are animals. Here we are talking about no-sex in high-school as if the natural hormones agumentaed by extra doses from chicken and beef will just disappear....

    Such...is life... there is no right path...in the end...we all die....
     
  21. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    A4ever,

    Sure there is...!

    Complementing kmguru, Unconditional Altruist Love (the greatest I remember now) means to want everyone to be happy no matter what they do or who they are. It's not easy... but it brings much peace and happiness.

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  22. kmguru Staff Member

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    Happiness is a state of mind
     
  23. A4Ever Knows where his towel is Registered Senior Member

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    OK...

    I think the animal remark by Kmguru is very soothing.

    Balance, a good center, I guess that's what important.
     

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