Warren: All ID actually asks at the moment is “teach the controversy”. Nasor: I have never heard of anyone who wanted intelligent design taught...
James R<< It seems to me that most claims of ID are negative. They proceed along lines like: "Darwinian evolution can't explain X, so X must have...
All ID actually asks at the moment is “teach the controversy”. In spite of all the debate, Darwinist supporters continue to insist no controversy...
ID is a teleological perspective for generating testable hypotheses about the natural world. It is not creationism. The dictionary defines...
Canute << Chiasma - you seem to be saying that by definition the notion of 'purpose' (creation,. teleology, ID etc) is not scientific, since we have...
Chiasma<< Because of data derived from chemistry. By studing the nature of atoms and molecules, one can be hypothsised natural events that would...
quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by Warren That is why I often ask...
Chiasma<< To tell the difference between an organism that was designed to evolve vs. an organism that evolved by accidental is impossible. Can not be...
Wesmorris: "It is worthy to search for signs of will where there is a chance of hunting down the willfull. Otherwise, you're spinning your wheels...
Imagine the following scenario. In the future, space travelers land on a sterile planet to colonize it. Upon mapping the planet, they find a strange...
Wesmorris<< You can find all kinds of "scientific evidence" for "intelligent design" but design is evidence of will, and will cannot be...
Wesmorris<< Well, it basically IS creationism there Warren, not necessarily in the biblical sense, but in the sense of adoption of the assumption of...
Chiasma<< Warren, lets see if I get this right. You are trying to tell me that the world was created by some sort of supernatural intellegent...
Canute<< Um, any idea where. I thought it was taboo everywhere.>> Teleology is considered taboo in science by many scientists, however, that's not...
Canute<< You didn't quite answer my previous question. I know that teleology is not supposed to have anything to do with origins (ontology if you...
Warren<< There is good reason to be skeptical of non-teleological causes behind the origin of life and good reason to suspect design behind the...
Canute<< Warren - as you say teleology is banned from evolutionary theory when it comes to origins. Is it allowed at all in the day to day activities...
Chiasma<< This thread is about creationism in science. Not ID theorist, or anything else like that, but creationism. Creationsism doesn't belong in...
Chiasma<< As for the last sentence, just to warn you, there is a growing number of creationists that are using the argument of design, saying that...
Chiasma, Creationism is focused on defending a literal reading of the Genesis account, usually including the creation of the earth by the...
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