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Honor, Courage, Commitment (5,925 posts)
Old 11-04-09, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Buffalo Roam
Again why Israel, the Palestinians and Arabs have had multiple chances to make peace and always engage in Hudna, isn't it time to hold them fully accountable for the constant attacks and warfare?

Like I have said, if the Palestinians hadn't started a fight they couldn't win, and then invited their Arab brothers to come to the rescue, and they screwed the job, and lost, shouldn't peace have been made, which would have allowed the implementation of U.N.181 and the establishment of a Palestinian State on the west bank of the Jordan, even though there was a Palestinian State already on the east bank?
You can finger point all you want, which is what they have been doing in the region for decades. But unless and until there is someone in the region willing to man up to the problem. We are going to continue with the current morass. Palestinians will continue to suffer.

There is plenty of blame for both sides. It is way past time for people in the region to man up and make peace.
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Old 11-04-09, 11:54 PM
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Pro-Israeli hasbara is often mystifying.

How is a refusal to accept occupation by violent foreign religious fanatics a missed opportunity?

Who here would succumb to such an occupation?
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Old 11-04-09, 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by joepistole
You can finger point all you want, which is what they have been doing in the region for decades. But unless and until there is someone in the region willing to man up to the problem. We are going to continue with the current morass. Palestinians will continue to suffer.

There is plenty of blame for both sides. It is way past time for people in the region to man up and make peace.
Again why does Israel need to man up, it is the Palestinians who have choosen the cesspit they live in, by not manning up to the fact that they have lost, make a peace, and move on and rebuild, instead, all the Palestinians have done is continue a war for 7 decade that should have ended in 1949.

If anyone needs to man up, it is the Palestinians, they lost, and they need to be man enough to admit to that fact, and make Peace, not Hudnas.
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No Goats. No Glory (9,361 posts)
Old 11-05-09, 12:18 AM
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the Palestinians residing in the west(triply so for the one in the states.) need to put political pressure to have something done. They have had a war of conquest waged against them by the Jewish people through Israel for 70 years and its about time they are recognized as the victims and blameless for the crimes against them. Israel needs to man up admit it was wrong to start a war to gain lands they had no right to and work for a state for all Palestinians the ones who admit their Palestinian identity and those who ignore their Palestinian identity(ie. the "Israelis".) Its really up to Israel. They can continue flaunting international law and ensure a blood bath when Israel falls when they get their due or they can work for peace for a change and ensure when Israel falls it doesn't hurt the Jewish people.
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Old 11-05-09, 12:21 AM
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I like how every one claims the Arab never tried to make peace. Egypt and Syria both made overtures of peace in the first years of Israel's existence and Jordan tried to engender peace between Arabs and Israel in the same time period but Israel wouldn't have it. Israel has never made any real attempt at peace. As the saying goes those who live by the sword die by the sword weather they chose to live that way like the Israelis or are forced to to protect them selves like the Palestinians and Arabs.
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No Goats. No Glory (9,361 posts)
Old 11-05-09, 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by joepistole
You can finger point all you want, which is what they have been doing in the region for decades. But unless and until there is someone in the region willing to man up to the problem. We are going to continue with the current morass. Palestinians will continue to suffer.

There is plenty of blame for both sides. It is way past time for people in the region to man up and make peace.
Your dealing with some who hates the palestinians for simply want their rights and are willing to fight for them. Funny considering he claims that he supports the constitution which was written by people who did exactly as the Palestinians have done fight for their freedom from foreign oppressors.
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Old 11-05-09, 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by pjdude1219
Your dealing with some who hates the palestinians for simply want their rights and are willing to fight for them. Funny considering he claims that he supports the constitution which was written by people who did exactly as the Palestinians have done fight for their freedom from foreign oppressors.
Really, now prove that I hate Palestinians, I don't agree with their leaderships political policies, I don't agree with their leadership who's policies have been a spectacular failure for 60+ years, and has brought nothing but misery, death, and destruction for the Arabs of Palestine for 60+ years, I think they need to man up and make a peace, and give the People of Palestine a real future, but I don't hate the Arabs of Palestine.

The Palestinians have failed to the one thing, that the Colonials did, it is called Win.
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