White Guilt

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  1. abu_afak Banned Banned

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    Some Quotes from an interview with Shelby Steele on the publication of his book "White Guilt". (Steele is Black)


    "Political correctness is an outgrowth of White Guilt. It’s a way for guilty-feeling whites to Constantly Indicate that they’re not racist, not colonialists, not imperialists, not warmongers, and so on."

    "White guilt, which I think Defines Liberalism, is a response to the stigma that white Americans bear for practicing racism for four centuries. Whites live with this constant pressure of having to demonstrate to the world that they’re not bigots, and this manifests itself in many facets of American life."

    "I’ll give you my bottom line: We’ve done worse in freedom than we did in segregation. It’s abominable that we made more advances between 1945 and 1965 than we have since, but it’s the truth."

    "No one wants to say the Problem with Black America is a Lack of Responsibility for Ourselves.
    If you say that and you’re white, you’re going to be called a racist
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    If you say that and you’re black, you’re going to be called an Uncle Tom. But that’s the truth."



    http://theologica.blogspot.com/2006/03/shelby-steele-on-white-guilt.html
     
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  3. desi Valued Senior Member

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    White guilt is the golden goose for too many parasites these days.
     
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  5. abu_afak Banned Banned

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    It's at work from Africa to Iraq.
    Where Third World peoples are not held responsible for their acts by PC liberals.

    Black Poverty/Crime/Single-parenthood?
    Arabs killing Arabs in Iraq? (or any Middle East problem)

    Who get's blamed?
    Rarely the people responsible.
     
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  7. Nickelodeon Banned Banned

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    to Iraq? That country was bombed to pieces ! The US went in with a piss-poor plan for the aftermath.
     
  8. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    It's called context, and knowledge of history. White conservatives want to absolve themselves of any responsibility for the condition of others so they can get on with the task of accumulating wealth with no limitations.
     
  9. abu_afak Banned Banned

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    The vast majority of the casulaties in Iraq are Arab Muslim on Arab Muslim(Sunni v Shia v al-Qeada, etc).

    So if the US knocked down a few buildings 4½ yrs ago, this is license for Muslims to kill each other by the Tens of Thousands.
    sans responsibility.

    The post above a perfect example of the string's title.
     
  10. Nickelodeon Banned Banned

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    Thats your summary of the Iraq war?

    "A few buildings knocked down"

    Good grief.
     
  11. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    We disbanded their army and police forces which would have provided security. Of course no one has a license to kill each other, but in a power vacuum, people are going to fight for their piece of the pie.
     
  12. abu_afak Banned Banned

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    That's not my summary and it's Disingenuous to say so.

    It's also Disingenuos not to answer the point of the post.
    Arabs are killing Arabs while they, with the help of Misguided pathetic liberals, blame someone else.

    It was the USA in the early days also who tried infrastructure reconstruction (and still does)- Frustrated by Local Sabotage.
     
  13. Ganymede Valued Senior Member

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    Who gives a fuck. And Blacks constantly have to prove they're not intellectually inferior. They have to prove that they're not crimminals. So welcome to the real world.
     
  14. Nickelodeon Banned Banned

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    Frustrated because they thought they could just stroll in and create a democracy out of thin air. The US is not trusted in Iraq because their motivations for the invasions are highly suspect. With such a lack of legitimacy, the US will always struggle to impose their will.

    I mean Jesus, they bomb a country, destroy its institutions, disband its security services (police army etc) and now want to turn round and wipe their hands of any responsibility?

    You broke it - you fix it.
     
  15. abu_afak Banned Banned

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    Huh?
    So naturally Arabs are killling each other because they don't trust us- even we're trying to stop it

    So naturally, 4½ years later, even as we try and rebuild their phyiscial and police infrstructure (while other Arabs bomb all the trainees) Arabs are killing each other.

    and on the piss-poor excuses go.
     
  16. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Maybe they're mad that we destroyed their country in the first place. Maybe they don't trust us because after the first Gulf War, Bush (41) let Saddam supress a popular uprising with combat helicopters after we gave them the go ahead.
     
  17. abu_afak Banned Banned

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    So naturally they're killing each Other, not us, by the Bushel.

    and on the piss-poor excuses go.
     
  18. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    It's both, mostly due to religious differences as it relates to who gets to be in power.
     
  19. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    C''mon, Spider, Iraq was a shithole before we got there and it's little more than that still. We didn't have anything to do with making it a shithole!

    Baron Max
     
  20. shichimenshyo Caught in the machine Registered Senior Member

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    Nope but we certainly did fill the shit hole to the brim
     
  21. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    No, but by removing the vicious tyrant Sadman, and attempting to give the people freedom, we also gave "freedom" to those Iraqis who want to kill other Iragis.

    If Sadman was still in power, he'd wipe out whole towns, men, women and children, in retaliation. And y'all would love it because there'd be "peace" in Iraq, huh? But you mamby-pamby liberals won't let us do that, will ya'?

    Baron Max
     
  22. G. F. Schleebenhorst England != UK Registered Senior Member

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    Why shouldn't we be bigots? Why shouldn't the most powerful overwhelm and enslave the weaker peoples?
     
  23. G. F. Schleebenhorst England != UK Registered Senior Member

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    At least the cities had power and water 24 hours a day before the yankmericans came along and cluster bombed their children.
     
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