View Full Version : the collapse of sciforums


On Radioactive Waves
11-27-02, 05:14 AM
i must say- this place was too good to be true

Joeman
11-27-02, 07:57 AM
no shit

Cory
11-27-02, 08:25 AM
Originally posted by On Radioactive Waves
i must say- this place was too good to be true

What happened? Sounds like you had a bad experience.

Thor
11-27-02, 08:40 AM
ORW, please expand

Nebula
11-27-02, 10:25 AM
ORW;

Quit complaining :D.

We are part of the "new school" anyway, so if sciforums has started to suck, it's because of people like you and me ;).

-Kyle

Avatar
11-27-02, 12:02 PM
WTF are you talking about?

if it's because of the late fundie and crackpot infestation then you should not worry- happened before and will happen again.


anyways- it's stupid of you arising panic where there is no reson

Phrenetic
11-27-02, 12:26 PM
Originally posted by Avatar
crackpot infestation

I hope that doesn't include me! :confused:

pumpkinsaren'torange
11-27-02, 12:37 PM
:D i think it all fell apart with my arrival. :p

lordjin
11-27-02, 02:25 PM
The property values fell drastically when I moved into this neighborhood.

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

pumpkinsaren'torange
11-27-02, 02:48 PM
:bugeye: :mad:


you said it, buster.

NightFall
11-27-02, 03:18 PM
sounded like a good book.. i was hoping for a part in the made-for-tv movie..

pumpkinsaren'torange
11-27-02, 03:31 PM
sounded like a good book.. i was hoping for a part in the made-for-tv movie..


sure would make for some good tv-watching, huh??:D


hmmm........i wonder which part i'd play....:p :D

NightFall
11-27-02, 03:33 PM
i dunno.. but i wanna be xev! she'd be a fun character.. i'd get to drink alot. -laughs-:D

pumpkinsaren'torange
11-27-02, 03:41 PM
well, i guess i'd be cast as the board's tramp. :p :bugeye:

On Radioactive Waves
11-27-02, 04:04 PM
well basicly i feel like its not the place it was when i first discovered the place.... it seems to be lacking the same intelectual discussions it once was composed of. I'm not saying they're completly gone, just that its less that way now. Also i see people come on this board to promota their crackpot theories, like stapling a poster to a phone pole. I still stay here, but it seems like you have to search a little harder for meaningful discussion.

well i stay mostly in Physics & Math and General Science. Its mostly the free thoughts section where i see the decay. Just like others have said before, people are focusing more on the "free" aspect than the "thoughts" part of it.

Avatar
11-27-02, 04:10 PM
I think the things are better than they were some 3 months ago

Thor
11-27-02, 04:18 PM
I arrived four months ago, I think I see a trail developing here :(

On Radioactive Waves
11-27-02, 04:20 PM
well i'm hoping the swarm of idiots who make this place suck will realise it now sucks and leave, while the people who actually like and make good use of this place will stay. Of course, I dont see this happening without some taunting.

Thor
11-27-02, 04:22 PM
Sad thing is, there are some people who make place like this "suck" for fun :(

On Radioactive Waves
11-27-02, 04:23 PM
four months ago!!!? Thor , you are the most hard core sciforums poster i've seen yet.

Thor
11-27-02, 04:25 PM
Hardcore? Elaborate please!! I only go hardcore at paintballing!! :)

On Radioactive Waves
11-27-02, 04:26 PM
its not just this place... theres just a certain type of human that would rather make your life suck than make their own life better, so that relativly it seems better to them. I dont bother getting involved in those types of discussions. Theres also the guy who cant prove anything himself, yet is convinced he can prove everyone else wrong.

Thor
11-27-02, 04:27 PM
Ah, you're refering to a certain Whatsupyall *taps nose*

notme2000
11-27-02, 04:30 PM
Holy Crap Thor! That many posts in 4 months!??!?!? Bravo! I for one still love sciforums, but then again I haven't been here long so maybe it was waaay better before I got here.

On Radioactive Waves
11-27-02, 04:30 PM
well i havnt seen anyone else make that many posts in such a short time. do you hang out in the religion forum by chance?

anyhow, this thread was not meant to be a self-proclaimed destiny or anything like that, but rather a cry for help to see if we sciforums lovers can team up against these people raining on the parade. i really hope this is just a phase, and the idiocy will calm down. Maybe its the just the time of year, or fool moons or somthing else weird.....

chroot
11-27-02, 04:31 PM
Originally posted by On Radioactive Waves
Theres also the guy who cant prove anything himself, yet is convinced he can prove everyone else wrong.
Wait, there's just one?

- Warren

pumpkinsaren'torange
11-27-02, 04:31 PM
theres just a certain type of human that would rather make your life suck than make their own life better, so that relativly it seems better to them. I dont bother getting involved in those types of discussions. Theres also the guy who cant prove anything himself, yet is convinced he can prove everyone else wrong



you're talking about my human-sponge theory. i didn't think anyone else knew about that. i have even written a paper on it. the thesis is: co-dependency.

Thor
11-27-02, 04:33 PM
What? Its no major achievement, come on!! It just proves I have a very sad life :( Actually, its picking up, hence the slow increase in posts lately

Actually, I've been hanging around Religion more than ever lately, but my posts are slowing down, seems a lil backwards

Anyway, I shall join this Alliance if it were to ever be formed

pumpkinsaren'torange
11-27-02, 04:35 PM
*hugs Thor*


no problemo, i like you just the way you are. i hope all works out for you in the thing you are struggling with right now..

Avatar
11-27-02, 04:35 PM
I still say that it has been worse

Thor
11-27-02, 04:37 PM
I think Sciforums is back on the up and up at the moment. If the quality posters keep posting, the not-so quality ones will get bored and die....or maybe move on, either way is good :)

Edit: Thank you Pumpkin :)

I sure hope it does too

Joeman
11-27-02, 04:41 PM
Originally posted by On Radioactive Waves
Theres also the guy who cant prove anything himself, yet is convinced he can prove everyone else wrong.

Well, you are totally wrong about that. You just are because I said so.

On Radioactive Waves
11-27-02, 04:46 PM
thor: i stay out of the religion forum, but its seems they go "POSTal" over there if ya know what i mean...


chroot:
Wait, there's just one?


of course not! I was generalizing, not pointing fingers.

Thor I think you could be right. If we team up and make the idiots feel unwelcome, perhaps they will put more thought into what they will post. I decide not to post , if I go back to read my post and decide it adds nothing.



edit: oops. fixed somthing that that said the opposite of what i meant

Captain_Crunch
11-27-02, 04:48 PM
Whats this thread all about?

Joeman
11-27-02, 04:50 PM
Originally posted by Captain_Crunch
Whats this thread all about?

Someone bitching about something.

Captain_Crunch
11-27-02, 04:53 PM
ah, another one of those type of threads.
Thanks for pointing that out Joeman :)

Thor
11-27-02, 04:53 PM
thor: i stay out of the religion forum, but its seems they go "POSTal" over there if ya know what i mean...
Yeah, I know, but some people just don't have a clue over there and insult people for no reason. So I have to defend what I believe in, its my right


of course not! I was generalizing, not pointing fingers.
I'm gonna point at Whatsupyall if you don't


Thor I think you could be right. If we team up and make the idiots feel unwelcome, perhaps they will put more thought into what they will post
In theory it could work, but in practise, its another story. But who are we really to say who is a bad poster and who is a good poster?


Whats this thread all about?
Well, it was first about how sciforums has gone downhill
Then how its gone a little uphill
Then about how hardcore I am
Then about "bad" posters and "good" ones

Avatar
11-27-02, 04:55 PM
Then about "bad" posters and "good" ones
I'm evil

Thor
11-27-02, 04:58 PM
Yes but you're the good kind of evil ;)

Edit: I was thinking Never Winter Nights, but Meh!!

Avatar
11-27-02, 04:59 PM
actually I am chaotic good in Baldur's Gate

On Radioactive Waves
11-27-02, 05:01 PM
it sure feels good to bitch! ya Whatsupyall does kinda ring a bell, well not as an opinion i have come to respect here. Basicly i respect everyones opinion until they prove themselves otherwise.

Joeman
11-27-02, 05:03 PM
Originally posted by Avatar
actually I am chaotic good in Baldur's Gate

I always thought I was Good until I am proven wrong in hell. I became Neutral Evil.

Avatar
11-27-02, 05:09 PM
I don't remember about the last test :(

the damn thing is I've broken my Baldur's Gate cd 2 :( :( :(
makes me want to cry

On Radioactive Waves
11-27-02, 05:17 PM
Baldur's Gate : is that some sort of game?

Avatar
11-27-02, 05:24 PM
!the best RPG of all times!

Sie Hail!

On Radioactive Waves
11-27-02, 05:35 PM
hmmmm i'll pass on the rpg's

lixluke
11-27-02, 11:13 PM
Originally posted by Avatar
!the best RPG of all times!

i know its more of an adventure game, but am i the only one in this entire place that has played Longest Journey (http://www.longestjourney.com/) ?

or am i just insane for thinking that its probably the best game ever created?

cool TLG video (http://www.longestjourney.com/download/video/)

Avatar
11-27-02, 11:14 PM
I searched all over Latvia for that game, but couldn't find it :mad:

lixluke
11-27-02, 11:29 PM
fortunately they rereleased it in july back in USA and i think they did it in a few more languages

i cant seem to find a downloadable version of the entire game.
maybe because its 4 discs.

sequel (http://www.petitiononline.com/tljseq/petition.html)

cosmicdisturbance
11-28-02, 08:48 AM
:o This place doesn't look so bad yet. I've seen boards enter more decadent phases. Know it all experts who are mostly right but occasionally wrong and can't admit it. The pretenders. Spammers. Flamers. Idiots. They are everywhere. I haven't posted enough to be classified accurately myself. I come here for brainstorming. Useless contributions to a discussion are easily ignored. It's probably school holidays or something. Remember that most newbies have followed links from your other favourite haunts. They just want to learn but suffer feelings of inadequacy. Taunting or baiting them into looking stupid is not the best approach. That feeds their need for social intercourse but only in a negative manner. They may mirror your condescension with ridicule and insults. At that point you can kiss the thread goodbye. Help them out a little when they ask questions and they will be mollified. Skip and ignore silly childish responses and they will get bored then leave. The admin can take care of serious pests. This place is as interesting and profound as you choose to make it.
:eek:

Bowser
11-28-02, 11:55 AM
It's a diverse crowd and a very open board. I don't have a problem with the mix of content you people offer here. Some of it makes me think. Some of it makes me feel. Some of it makes me role my eyes. Everyone has something to offer, even if it's babble.

Except for you evil tobacco smokers, I can tolerate the company of pretty much anyone.

Adam
11-28-02, 12:01 PM
Whinging sissies. Get back to work! Polish those boots!

Thor
11-28-02, 12:03 PM
SIR YES SIR!!

SIR AT ONCE SIR!!

Avatar
11-28-02, 12:54 PM
whispers hey, crew - let's make our capt walk the plank. A good 'ol mutiny and we will be the lords of the sea!

Thor
11-28-02, 12:56 PM
sounds like a plan, hell am i gonna polish any more boots for this guy

Captain_Crunch
11-28-02, 12:59 PM
im in

Adam
11-28-02, 01:01 PM
Sissies. :p

Thor
11-28-02, 01:02 PM
right, av, you're the ring leader. we need codenames. i'll be 8ball, you be cueball and you be 8ball

Captain_Crunch
11-28-02, 01:13 PM
am i 8 ball or cueball?

Avatar
11-28-02, 01:24 PM
we all will be cueballs- the capt will be confused and he'll think there's only one nervous guy

Thor
11-28-02, 01:42 PM
right, ok, new names, i'm 8ball. av's cueball, and cap'n's 8ball. ok!!

Avatar
11-28-02, 01:49 PM
ok ok - but we'll rush on him all together. Thor - you take that big fish to knock him out, Crunch will get the ropes - I'll get a harpoon to make him walk.
All for one, one for all!

Thor
11-28-02, 01:59 PM
awww, the fish, but my hands will smell and i might chip a nail

Avatar
11-28-02, 02:01 PM
Sissie :p

rofl

Thor
11-28-02, 02:05 PM
Right, come on you pansie!!

On Radioactive Waves
11-28-02, 03:03 PM
you make a good point cosmicdisturbance, however I was not suggesting instant ridicule. After a few posts you can pretty much tell what kind of mindset the poster has. If they have any intention of intelectual disciscussion, I dont think they would come in here and make a bunch of stupid posts at first. I could see new posters come in angry to refute ideas or concepts, but someone who wanted to add to the community should make a good impression. I say sure, slap them on the wrist at first, give them a chance. But if they prove they arn't and have no intention of contributing somthing, then the hell with them.

Captain_Crunch
11-28-02, 03:25 PM
so whos snooker cue?

Thor
11-28-02, 04:37 PM
i don't know about you, but i think we've been rumbled

Zero
11-28-02, 05:57 PM
psst heres a big dolphin carcass to whack him with...

CounslerCoffee
11-29-02, 08:00 PM
I have a big problem with people who join and all of a sudden they have 150 new posts by the end of the week. I know who they are. Most of the new members seem to want to post short little stupid things just to see their posting number go up.

Ive been a member for over a year now, Ive got about 1200 posts some of these new people have 256 posts and have been a member for 2 weeks. I just don't see how its posable to be a good poster when you make that many posts.

Its quality not quantity.

Oh and they will go away, the crackpots I mean. They come and go in waves.

cosmicdisturbance
11-29-02, 08:48 PM
A large number of useless posts in concession can certainly make serious conversation difficult. Thanks for the example guys, by the way. Not that I didn't find the fish bludgeoning mutinee idea entertaining. A less slippery cudgel might serve you better. Like maybe the ships cat if it'll hold still.
The problem is that different people come here for different reasons. A science forum as large and active as this one while drawing many perspectives on an issue can also draw excessive clowning. Not to mention repressed personalities afflicted with chronic typing diarhea. Is that how diarhea is spelled?

On Radioactive Waves
11-29-02, 10:42 PM
Its spelled diarrhea.


I completly agree with you, seeing a bunch of worthless posts amounts to looking at a bunch of shit.

Joeman
11-29-02, 11:43 PM
Yup. We're all worthless. None of us post anything worthwhile.

Bye.

Benji
11-30-02, 12:58 AM
On Radioactive Waves what are you moaning about?

Do you pay for this service?

No.

Well stop starting bs threads like this, then you wont make yourself look like the people you profess to hate.

/rant over

Thor
11-30-02, 06:24 AM
My wave is yet to pass :p

I've just got so much time on my hands posting small tit bits here and there just pass the time a little. Sorry :(

On Radioactive Waves
11-30-02, 12:56 PM
Benji:

for your information, I am a student and I go through periods when I dont work and have very little money. When I do work again soon, i will make a donation as soon as I can afford it. Futhermore I never professed to hate anyone.

%BlueSoulRobot%
12-01-02, 02:18 PM
Maybe it's me, but I don't seem to find any decadence at SciForums. I enjoy all posts. I do not pick sides, I will not support anyone, nor push them down either. I feel sorry for WhatsUpYall. I feel sorry for all the people who are on ignore lists, for all the misinterpreted people who, by public opinion, are rendered stupid.

Avatar
12-01-02, 02:23 PM
would it make you feel better, if I felt sorry for you? :)

Zero
12-01-02, 02:26 PM
Oh no not again. Aww, is the fishwhacking over? :(

pumpkinsaren'torange
12-01-02, 02:28 PM
:confused: "fishwhacking"?? you mean like what Led Zepplin did??:bugeye:

Avatar
12-01-02, 02:29 PM
is that anything I said?

pumpkinsaren'torange
12-01-02, 02:35 PM
:confused: who you talking to??

%BlueSoulRobot%
12-01-02, 02:36 PM
Yes, pity me. I can only lie broken in this corner for so long, my tears long dried leaving salt that stings my scars.

Pity me, for I am your inferior.

(ha ha, like the twisted "Fear me, for I am your superior"?)

%BlueSoulRobot%
12-01-02, 02:40 PM
Originally posted by Avatar
is that anything I said? No. If anything, it should've been the things I said in times of fury and hurt.

pumpkinsaren'torange
12-01-02, 03:10 PM
:o :D


ooooooooooh, i guess you two were "having a moment"...;)

%BlueSoulRobot%
12-01-02, 03:15 PM
:eek:

pumpkinsaren'torange
12-01-02, 03:17 PM
2...i meant, you "two"...but, nevermind me...i am not making much sense today. that's my 2 cents worth...

Avatar
12-01-02, 03:22 PM
you are not worth even that:p

pumpkinsaren'torange
12-01-02, 03:33 PM
:D aw, but, you know you love me in spite of that!! :p

CounslerCoffee
12-01-02, 03:54 PM
You know you guys are talking about stupid one line posts. Go back and read what youve said in the past few pages. Its full of em'

Avatar
12-01-02, 03:55 PM
chill out

pumpkinsaren'torange
12-01-02, 03:59 PM
:bugeye: what the heck is up with Counselor Coffee these fine days??? he seems awfully stressed and anal lately...too much caffiene??

i KNOW i KNOW this is a SCI [UNDERSCORE THE "SCI" PART] forums board...i get it, i get it...

CounslerCoffee
12-01-02, 04:08 PM
Sorry. Working a full time job at Wal*Mart and going to school leaves me very little time to post. So when I do get home and I do read through threads I dont want them to be bogged down with one line thingys. Its perfectly understandable that you guys want to have fun, and it is fun. I just dont have time for fun.

pumpkinsaren'torange
12-01-02, 04:13 PM
:( ok. sorry. i wish i could give you the gift of a bit of time, so you could have a spot of fun now and then.. i know that working with the public during Christmas time can't be a very pleasant experience for you. you are a better person than i am, i couldn't take working at any store during the busy, busy holidays...the customers would end up driving me bonkers.

wet1
12-01-02, 05:27 PM
Having spent some time in retail sales, I do not envy you CounslerCoffee. The coming holidays are especially trying as there are always far more customers than there are people to help them.

It always seems that there are a few who wear their posteriors between their shoulders...

CounslerCoffee
12-01-02, 06:02 PM
Well your both right. I do apoligise for the way that I was acting. I worked today from 6am to 12pm. As many of you might have heard Wal*Mart made $1.4 billion dollars in one day. It seems like all of that money has been spent in Kentucky. I swear to you all that i have never seen so many people move so fast in my entire life.

Its like rush rush rush! In and out, In and out, In and out! Go here go there! Restock this if you can Coffee! Somebody spilled something over here Coffee! Coffee you have to work the register right now! Coffee can you check inventory and see if we have anymore copies of blah blah blah? Or blah blah blah?

Der de der. De der der. Der dermp. De darmp. Yeah Im stressed. But I guess working 7 days a week will do that to a person.

*EDIT* Sorry for getting off topic. Now, sciforums isnt dead or dying. People just come in waves. Some of the new members will stay and become very productive posters. Others will just leave after they get bored or get into to much trouble. Many of you may of noticed that that Lordjin guy is gone. Give it time and the rest of the problem people will disappear to.

NightFall
12-01-02, 10:47 PM
Well your both right. I do apoligise for the way that I was acting. I worked today from 6am to 12pm. As many of you might have heard Wal*Mart made $1.4 billion dollars in one day. It seems like all of that money has been spent in Kentucky. I swear to you all that i have never seen so many people move so fast in my entire life. a man at our local walmart had a heart attack while trying to lift a tv... he fell down and it is said that people were just stepping over him to get the tv's... don't know if i beleive that.. but thats what i heard.

On Radioactive Waves
12-02-02, 03:23 AM
Dead- no. But it seems to be sick right now. Whats the deal with the server?

Fukushi
12-02-02, 07:31 AM
Originally posted by CounslerCoffee
I have a big problem with people who join and all of a sudden they have 150 new posts by the end of the week. I know who they are. Most of the new members seem to want to post short little stupid things just to see their posting number go up.

Ive been a member for over a year now, Ive got about 1200 posts some of these new people have 256 posts and have been a member for 2 weeks. I just don't see how its posable to be a good poster when you make that many posts.

Its quality not quantity.

Oh and they will go away, the crackpots I mean. They come and go in waves.

I totally agree, I have been here since,....eeehm,....it's been too long to remember,....I admit that I haven't been posting lately,....srry if ya missed me!

Luckely: I can't possibly be one of these (disturbing)persons you speak of: cause of that (absence)

but anyway: I have indeed also known wors times, remember Mallory knox? Mallisious Mall hehehe,....she was a real karma-whore, Pig and sucking a lot of good vibrations down the drain.
Boy, you couldn't say anything good to her, hehehe!


Mostly I enjoy reading some threads yes,...but it's a shame sciforums did indeed crash some time ago,...not my fault however,....

Greetings Fukushi
XXXXXXXXXXXXXX
______________

On Radioactive Waves
12-02-02, 12:04 PM
remember Mallory knox?


no. I'm certainly glad I missed that era.

Avatar
12-02-02, 12:08 PM
she was quite fun- same goes for FoxMulder, but we all know who he really was :D

Joeman
12-02-02, 02:07 PM
Originally posted by Avatar
she was quite fun- same goes for FoxMulder, but we all know who he really was :D

Or She :D


I haven't talked to Mallory for a long time. She is actually a nice lady believe it or not.

Avatar
12-02-02, 04:09 PM
Or She
they were 4 people ;) :D

CounslerCoffee
12-03-02, 12:53 AM
I remember that Mallory lady. She was going nuts when I first arrived....

Whatever happend to that Martin guy? He started like 20 threads in 5 minutes all about the same thing... It was recently to.

wet1
12-03-02, 12:56 AM
A strange thing happened on the way to the forums. Martin has a post count of one.