2016 Republican Presidential Clown Car Begins!

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  1. arfa brane call me arf Valued Senior Member

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    'tsk', Donnie, Donnie, Donnie. I thought you had a high IQ. You just used the wrong pronoun.

    "Those who . . . who are . . ." is the correct grammar. You use "that" with inanimate objects, not people. Weren't you paying attention in class again?

    Oh yeah, I guess you can't apply this thing you say to the hate you preach, being a citizen and not a guest and all. I guess it doesn't apply to all those neo-nazi folks either. Or anyone who is a US citizen because of that Constitution thing, huh?
     
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  3. arfa brane call me arf Valued Senior Member

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    Anyway, I think, if the reports are correct and Trumpo is running for president the way an escapee from a mental asylum would, he has essentially no chance.

    He's so sold on his own bullshit that he thinks all it takes is holding a few rallies, no need to advertise or even have campaign centres in battleground states. He isn't just disappointing the GOP, he's bullshitting them, too. The same way he bullshits everyone. The bobble-heads who believe in his bullshit deserve to be humiliated--about the only thing Mr Orange seems to be any good at.

    He will humiliate the GOP, American politics in general, and most likely destroy a few careers along the way. I certainly hope the rich and famous stay away in droves from all those golf courses and hotels he owns. I hope he manages to wreck his own empire, and it looks like that's exactly what he's going to achieve. Good job, Donny boy, you goddam lying sack of shit.

    Oh, by the way, I was being sarcastic in case you didn't realise . . .
     
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  5. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    A Trump spokesperson was asked today to support Trump's assertion that Hillary was physically unqualified to become POTUS. He responded by saying she stubbed her toe.

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    You really cannot make this stuff up.
     
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  7. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    Well, according to the New York Times, The Donald is pulling in the big guns. Roger Ailes who resigned from Fox under charges of sexual perversion i.e. sexually harassing his employees, is being brought in to help The Donald prepare for debates. So it would appear the Donald is preparing at least for the debates. Now whether he shows up for them or not is another matter.

    The New York Times has well vetted credible sources for this report, but the Trump campaign is denying the association which is understandable. Trump probably wouldn't want it known Ailes is advising The Donald. The fact that a sex pervert is now advising The Donald and helping him with his debate prep is probably not something The Donald wants known. Both parties have admitted they talk frequently, but that was before Ailes's perversions became known. Now the story is The Donald and Ailes still talk frequently but Ailes isn't helping the Donald. They are probably talking about their gardens.

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    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/17/us/politics/donald-trump-roger-ailes.html

    So the question is how will this affect The Donald's campaign? Will it help him in the debates? Ailes has been helping Republican candidates for decades. It has been his career. His advice would be very helpful to the Donald even though he no longer controls Fox News. But Ailes still has some very powerful friends and influence at Fox News e.g. Sean Hannity.
     
  8. Ivan Seeking Registered Senior Member

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    Paul Begala cracks me up sometimes. He pointed out that the average age of Fox News viewers is 68. "It's God's waiting room!", he declared.

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  9. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    Trump announced his domestic policy today. He's going to solve our crime problems and protestor problems. He's going to throw them all in jail. That together with his anti-terrorist squads he wants to create will keep us safe.

    All hail il duce has returned.
     
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  12. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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  13. wellwisher Banned Banned

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    What everyone seems to be missing is, to whom Trump's style appeals to. Trump does not appeal to the snobby elites in politics and media, who would prefer he put on smiling face, act pretentious, while reading a well rehearsed script of rhetoric and double talk off a teleprompter.

    If you ever hung around in a neighborhood pub, frequented by middle and lower middle class workers and poor working people, they are not educated enough to be snobby or concerned with over thinking a topic with double talk. They tend to be more frugal with ideas and narrow with opinion. They can be crude and vulgar, due to limited vocabulary. They may use the f-word a lot, since the word has so many meanings; different contexts. Trump talks like them.

    This style is not fake with Trump, since he has a genuine affinity for the working man. Trump was born in Queens and as he got older he wanted to become a developer, like his dad, but in Manhattan. Manhattan is way more snobby and elitist; old money. While Queens was more working class. The snobs and elitist in Manhattan did not except the young Trump, as well as the working class people, who would work his various projects. Trump is being true to his friends and roots; working class, not those who set up obstructions to keep the riff raft out of their snobby circles.

    During the primaries, the overly educated snobs and elites were always saying how Trump was blowing it. That was based on the needs of snobbery and PC games. He proved them wrong, because his real supporter was the guy in the pub, who works, supports a family and pays taxes. This person is not too complicated, but says what he believes and fight, even for the little things. After the fight is over, the two will buy each other a drink; pub etiquette; peace maker.

    As an experiment visit a local pub and see if you can spot Trump's roots. Trump is a billionaire which would seem to imply inner circle. But the difference is he is first generation billionaire who was not allowed to play. This could explain why his drive was building prestigious buildings, hotels snd golf courses. He was trying hard to be accepted among the snobs but he could not leave his roots; crude. His kids are more of a bridge between workers and elites.
     
  14. Ivan Seeking Registered Senior Member

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    He appeals to the masses who have been brainwashed by Fox News and Nonsense radio, as was admitted by RW talk radio guru Sykes.

    Translation: Ignore anything you don't like or understand. Don't like Obama? No problem. He's a Muslim from Kenya. He gonna take your guns. He' a communist.

    Ah yes because all con men billionaires are worried about the little guy. You are being duped by a con man. It is that simple.
     
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  15. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    It's a shake up without being a shake up or at least that's who Trump is trying to sell this. This is the second shake up within as many months. That's indicative of internal chaos.
     
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    Has anyone else noticed that about two weeks ago, CNN started allowing profanity to be used by guests and even anchors, without censorship?

    I wonder if those damn emails and Trumps go F yourself comments have loosened everyone's tongue.
     
  17. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    Indeed, but that is only about 30 percent of the voter base. Trump keeps doubling down on that 30% in part because they are so easy to please. All you have to do, all Trump has to do is to appeal to their basest biases. That's easy, because you don't need facts and you don't need logic. The base readily dismisses inconvenient facts, and really doesn't care about reasoned thought. Appealing to the base is easy for him, that's why he likes it. That's why he does it.

    But if Trump wants to get elected POTUS he needs to appeal to more than the Republican base, and thus far he seems incapable of appealing to anyone but the Republican base. He's not big on thinking or policy, nor is he good at it. The man doesn't think things through, nor does he have the requisite knowledge of even the most basic things. I think most people want a POTUS who will think things through. But that's not Trump, and that's one of the reasons why Trump would be an incredibly dangerous POTUS.

    With this latest shake up, the shake up which shall not be called a shake up, appears to be a stark reversal for the Trump campaign. He appears to be tacking back to the Republican base. He hasn't been good at trying to expand the Republican base. Early on in his campaign he told folks he would attract Democrats and turn blue states red. That hasn't happened. Trump has been unable to attract Democrats and he has lost many Republicans. Red states are turning blue. Blue states are not turning red as Trump had promised.

    Putting Stephen Bannon, CEO Brietbart.com LLC, in charge of his campaign is a sharp tack back to the Republican base. That's an admission that the new and kinder Trump was a failure. Trump wasn't good at reading teleprompters. Trump's not good at staying on message. He's good at throwing red meat to the Republican base just as Palin was when she was the Republican vice presidential nominee. But you need to do more than that if you want to become POTUS. Trump doesn't seem to understand that.

    One of the delusions the Republican base suffers is the belief that they are representative of all Americans, and they clearly are not. Perhaps Trump suffers from the same delusion.
     
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  18. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Valued Senior Member

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    I'm still laughing at the idea that he called in Kellyanne Conway. Seriously, I was just making a joke about her a couple days before all this.
     
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  19. douwd20 Registered Senior Member

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    Yeah that's the way to save a ship headed for the rocks. Lean on the throttle.
     
  20. Ivan Seeking Registered Senior Member

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    Trump turned the ship directly for the rocks. He is doubling down on the white-nationalist racism, and nutty conspiratorial crap, by turning to Breitbart. In short, he wanted to surround himself with admirers and sickos.

    Here come the conspiracy theories! Watch for the greatest disinformation/misinformation campaign ever mounted.

    With Roger Ailes in league with this band of thugs and crackpots, there is talk of a "Trump News" to compete with Fox. And they had better hurry! Ailes probably hasn't be laid for awhile.
     
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  21. Ivan Seeking Registered Senior Member

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    Trump was complaining that Hillary takes weekends off and "that's not fair".

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    How can someone be such a bombastic asshole and such a little baby at the same time?

    And now he's backpedalling on "building the wall".
     
  22. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    Trump the fascist:

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  23. Ivan Seeking Registered Senior Member

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    Here we go! Hillary is now anti-police and responsible for the riots following police shootings.
     

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