(Not sure why I'm intervening... Never goes well for me... But hey ho...) To take umbrage with the use of "but" seems pedantic as much as it seems wrong. "Women are humans... but they're the ones who get to give birth to the offspring." Anything wrong with that statement? One could have used "and", but the "but" is to emphasise a difference between the label of "human" and the label of "woman". I.e. Not everything attributable to the label of woman is attributable to the label of human. The "but" was not to point out an exception to the identity of "human" but to express an addition to that identity that is borne solely by "woman". As such, GeoffP's usage seems fair and reasonable, as he was using it to promote such a difference. We start with the label of human, and the rights assigned to humans. And then, through the "but" we go on to explain some additional situations that also need to be taken into consideration when it comes to "woman" due to circumstances which they are sometimes found in that men can not be. Any issue taken with the statement by GeoffP thus seems, to me, to stem from something other than the mere language being used. But then that seems true of much of this thread so far... Both strands of it.