A world with a loving God.

Discussion in 'Religion' started by Xelasnave.1947, Nov 2, 2019.

  1. just me Registered Senior Member

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    there might be a loving god, but not an all powerful loving one. an all powerful and loving one would make everything perfect without any negative repercussions like the impedance of free will for example.
     
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  3. just me Registered Senior Member

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    I agree.
     
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  5. Vociferous Valued Senior Member

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    If there were no problems, human choice/freedom would be meaningless.
     
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  7. just me Registered Senior Member

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    not if there were an all capable god to come up with a solution.
     
  8. Vociferous Valued Senior Member

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    So you really think you could be happy without any freedom?
     
  9. Vociferous Valued Senior Member

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    Freedom and that kind of authoritarian control are mutually exclusive.
     
  10. just me Registered Senior Member

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    not if there were an all capable god to stop that from being so.
    an all capable god could do ANYTHING.
    even the impossible.
     
  11. Vociferous Valued Senior Member

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    There's no reason to believe that a God could or would do the logically impossible, like create a square circle. Not merely impossible by our standards, but a logical impossibility by definition.
     
  12. just me Registered Senior Member

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    if god cant do the impossible god is not all powerful.
     
  13. just me Registered Senior Member

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    no.
     
  14. Vociferous Valued Senior Member

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    A God is omnipotent, as a defining feature of being a God. As such, being non-omnipotent is impossible, as it would contradict its own existence.
    And if you think the logically impossible should somehow be possible, you've got bigger problems than your obviously lack of knowledge of the long history of debate about omnipotence.
     
  15. just me Registered Senior Member

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    there is no need to get emotional, I don't think that the logically impossible SHOULD be possible, just that it has to be in order for your god to be all powerful.
     
  16. Vociferous Valued Senior Member

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    Then your criteria for a God is logically inconsistent.
     
  17. just me Registered Senior Member

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    that's YOUR criteria for god.
     
  18. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    Well at least your not alone in this world of shittyness. I'm enjoying myself but seeing others suffer makes me wonder... what is the point? Have you tried improving your standard of living?
     
  19. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    What's in it for him?
     
  20. just me Registered Senior Member

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    it would make god feel good if god was a loving god.
     
  21. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    What if God cannot feel good?
     
  22. just me Registered Senior Member

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    then god cant be loving I suppose.
     
  23. Vociferous Valued Senior Member

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    No, I already told you that omnipotence does not include the ability to do the logically impossible. If you want to lie about it, that's on you.
     

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