A world with a loving God.

Discussion in 'Religion' started by Xelasnave.1947, Nov 2, 2019.

  1. just me Registered Senior Member

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    changed my mind about that.
    a loving god could still help others for the sake of preventing itself from feeling bad, if not for the sake of making itself feel good.
     
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  3. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Citation please. Maybe you need to choose your sources more carefully.
     
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  5. just me Registered Senior Member

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  7. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    the quality of having unlimited or very great power.

    Interesting.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=omnipotent+definition&rlz=1C1GCEA_enCA813CA813&oq=omnipotent&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0l7.3320j0j9&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

    (of a deity) having unlimited power; able to do anything.



    So Google can't even agree with itself. I'd say that disqualifies it as a reputable source for topically-sensitive definitions.
     
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  8. just me Registered Senior Member

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  9. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    How about selfless?
     
  10. kx000 Valued Senior Member

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    Hope can only suffer once for a short time, there is still hope in our world if it does.
     
  11. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 70 years old Valued Senior Member

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    Means omnipotent for a human = great power

    Means omnipotent for a deity = unlimited power

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  12. Vociferous Valued Senior Member

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  13. foghorn Registered Senior Member

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    Vociferous, ''very very little'' is not nothing. Besides, Guth is talking here (below) about the ''observable universe'' taken back in time to just before the inflation period. Notice Guth says his theory does not rule out an infinite universe.

    https://ned.ipac.caltech.edu/level5/Guth/Guth_contents.html

    Here's a quote from page 4:

    https://ned.ipac.caltech.edu/level5/Guth/Guth4.html

     
  14. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    "A World with a loving God".... has gone to... power levels... this is how super heroes were made up! Threads like this. Just an observation.

    EDIT:
    God = unlimited
    god = limited
     
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  15. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    Don't you mean:

    God = politics
    god = politics
     
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  17. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    In what sense?
     
  18. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    Well, I thought religion was 98% brainwashing, and grooming for politics.
     
  19. Vociferous Valued Senior Member

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    Personally, I think it can come of absolutely nothing, but I acknowledge some people might not think inflation technically supports that. And how Guth changed his tune over time is immaterial. An infinite universe is not justified by science, as it ultimately requires a fallacious infinite regress.
     
  20. just me Registered Senior Member

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    meh. I dont know.

    I suppose there would be no personal gain in helping others then.
     
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  21. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    Who's talking about religion?
     
  22. foghorn Registered Senior Member

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    ''not justified by science,''
    Yet, running the observable universe backwards until its values for energy density (matter and EM radiation) reach near singularity, does not say or give any indication about the spatial extent of the whole universe. As you know, every point in the universe is the centre of its own observable universe. So, you could say values for energy density reach singularity at every point in an infinite universe.
    How can the Universe be infinite if it was all concentrated into a point at the Big Bang?
    http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/infpoint.html
     
  23. Vociferous Valued Senior Member

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    Making claims about things beyond the observable universe is not justified by science, as physics dictate that we can never know anything about that, due to the relative expansion of space exceeding the speed of light limit on the transmission of information. IOW, relative to us, light sources beyond the cosmic horizon are moving faster than light, just because of the metric expansion of space. This horizon acts as an event horizon of a black hole, which also bars the retrieval of information.

    All else is pure speculation.
     

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