Abiogenic Oil

Discussion in 'World Events' started by Buffalo Roam, Jun 4, 2008.

  1. OilIsMastery Banned Banned

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    Siljan Ring produced 80 barrels of oil but I'm not sure your source knows the difference between J. Kenney and T. Gold.

    http://www.gasresources.net/SwedenProjectResults.htm

    "Natural petroleum has no connection with biological matter." -- JF Kenney et al.

    "There has not been any 'debate' about the origin of hydrocarbons for over a century. Competent physicists, chemists, chemical engineers and men knowledgeable of thermodynamics have known that natural petroleum does not evolve from biological material since the last quarter of the 19th century." -- JF Kenney, 2002

    "The suggestion that petroleum might have arisen from some transformation of squashed fish or biological detritus is surely the silliest notion to have been entertained by substantial numbers of persons over an extended period of time." -- Fred Hoyle, 1982
     
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  3. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    i have. diamondiods never came up with anything involving oil. That was kinda the point
     
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  7. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    now if only you did
     
  8. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    Are you to fucking stupid to read. right of the bat it is talking about diamondiods in nanotechnology.
     
  9. OilIsMastery Banned Banned

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    And your point is?
     
  10. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    chevron if you would read is talking about making, not finding higher, diamondiods and how they can be used in nanotechnology. they are man made thats the point
     
  11. OilIsMastery Banned Banned

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    LOL @ U.

    http://moleculardiamond.chevron.com/diamondtech/discovery.asp

     
  12. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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  14. synthesizer-patel Sweep the leg Johnny! Valued Senior Member

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    This doesn't predict what you think it predicts - the key word in the passage is continues - you assume that a conversion to methane happens istantaneously. Neither your messy hypothesis nor the theory of a biotic origin of oil predicts an instant transformation - proved by the very fact that the oil is there.
    Therefore this does not lend any support to you and does not violate a biotic origin of oil.

    Kenney's assertion ignores the fact all of life relies on being in thermodynamic disequilibrium with its environment - as such it is merely an unproven assertion.

    http://chentserver.uwaterloo.ca/cou...refinery/chapter2-the-origin-of-petroleum.pdf

    You have been proven wrong on this on 3 separate occasions now - if you continue to simply repeat arguments you have lost parrot fashion, then the continued owning of you by me is going to lose its entertainment value.

    The key word you are looking for here is bulk - yet again an example of poor comprehension of the english language - or a selective mental filter that prevents you from seeing anything that disagrees with you.
    Have you ever heard of Morton's Demon?

    Kenney named as drilling manager of siljan ring project here:
    http://static.scribd.com/docs/j79lhbgbjbqrb.pdf

    The 80 barrels of oily sludge (not oil) recovered from the siljan ring was made up of the diesel pumped into the hole to lubricate the drill bit.
    Even if it had been abiotic, the price of extraction was $750,000 per barrel.

    http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/011205_no_free_pt2.shtml

    so the quotation from I provided some time ago Barry Katz, a ChevronTexaco Fellow still stands utterly uncontested by you - and contradicts several of your assertions.

    May I suggest that if you want a robust discussion, you take a time out - learn some geology - actually read your sources, and then start from the beginning by writing an integrated synthesis of the current state of abiotic origin research in your own words.

    Ps - I checked some of your earlier posts out this morning - I laughed so hard that I sprayed coffee all over my computer screen when I saw you pretend that you teach petroleum geology - some even came out of my nose
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    http://www.sciforums.com/showpost.php?p=1882287&postcount=389
    The only job you'll ever get in the petroleum industry is working as a gas station attendant

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  15. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Oh my.. most everyone knows about the methane lakes at Titan.
    I certainly don't have to do research for that.
    It is kind of a coincidence that the both of you use the very same inane example, don't you think ?
     
  16. synthesizer-patel Sweep the leg Johnny! Valued Senior Member

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    Fancy another coffin nail?

    Here's one from the most prestigious natural science journal in the world

    Abiogenic formation of alkanes in the Earth's crust as a minor source for global hydrocarbon reservoirs

    http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v416/n6880/abs/416522a.html
     
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  17. OilIsMastery Banned Banned

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    There has never been a single instance of an organic organism somehow miraculously generating hydrocarbons in the Earth's crust.

    "The suggestion that petroleum might have arisen from some transformation of squashed fish or biological detritus is surely the silliest notion to have been entertained by substantial numbers of persons over an extended period of time." -- Fred Hoyle, 1982.
     
  18. synthesizer-patel Sweep the leg Johnny! Valued Senior Member

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    Your sources are as questionable as ever.
    Hoyle was also an evolution denier -and not even a very good one - you can hardly hold a great deal he says with particularly high regard

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoyle's_Fallacy
     
  19. OilIsMastery Banned Banned

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    Hoyle was right: no animal has ever evolved into a another animal through natural selection. DNA prevents that from ever happening.
     
  20. synthesizer-patel Sweep the leg Johnny! Valued Senior Member

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    what no googled link to support this?

    You're slipping

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  21. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    Well as you say, it is a well known fact, so any one with a modicum of awareness would be cognoscente of that information.

    Should I accuse you of being a sock puppet because you post the same oid worn information as synthesizer-patel, pjdude1219, spidergoat,.............
     
  22. synthesizer-patel Sweep the leg Johnny! Valued Senior Member

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    which you have yet to make any attempt to refute - you may or may not be a sockpuppet (frankly I don't care) - however your status as a lightweight is not in question
     
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  23. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    I have said that I am not a sock puppet, now how about you, being the accuser, and the principle of being innocent until proven guilty, you prove that I am guilty of being a sock puppet.

    Accusation isn't proof of guilt.

    One of the standard modus operandi of people like you, is that when you can't win a debate on points, is to accuse your opponent of being a, sock puppet, raciest, bigot, homophobe, neo-con,............. and stop debating by information, and make it a trial of personalities.
     

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