Aging theories

Discussion in 'Biology & Genetics' started by Rick, Jul 22, 2004.

  1. Prester John The voice of Reason! Registered Senior Member

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    Its interesting to note that the site is not THE cdc site. Futhermore the claims of medical literature documenting a lifespan of >150 years are untrue. If you want to think of the Bible as a scientific source thats up to you but then i'd have to ask you about if as the bible claims in ?Joshua the Sun really does go around the Earth.
    Finally you have neglected to actually back any of your comments with what is commonly called evidence.
     
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  3. John Connellan Valued Senior Member

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    Didn't the Bible actually document people living to 500 years of age?!
     
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  5. Kumar Registered Senior Member

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    John, what is this?

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  7. John Connellan Valued Senior Member

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    Exactly! Its a bit much though, don't u think?!

    I would imagine WE are the longest lived generation of Homo Sapiens!
     
  8. Kumar Registered Senior Member

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    It means that we decreasing our upper age(quality) & increasing the quantity at the cost of quality? Nature may be keeping total of all people's ages same, to maintain nature's balance.

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    eg; Now: (20+45+55)/3=40, Old: (5+75)/2=40. However old justify--'survival of fittest' rule of nature & future generations more poweful, immune & resistant. Now all weak & strongs are here, but nature says SOF. Can it be a reason or cause of most of modren complications?
     
  9. John Connellan Valued Senior Member

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    What were the terms in those equations u specified?
     
  10. Kumar Registered Senior Member

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    Referances of longer age & body(probably this * **) are also available in other ancient litretures. What exactly, I can't say but just for a thought, the upper limit can be somewhat related to atomic life.

    You can imagine the same but what about the future. Don't imagine, it is ending or near to end in consideration of nature's balance, as probably, WE are the already longest lived generation of Homo Sapiens!, .

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    If we are reducing our age/body--my other posting can be a reason/logic to the same.

    * http://www.umich.edu/~umjains/jainismsimplified/chapter06.html
    **http://www.geocities.com/tamiljain/bahubali/pages/bahubali.htm
     
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  11. John Connellan Valued Senior Member

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    A lot of exaggeration went on in the days before the 1900's. This is because it was harder to document peoples lives then. There were no birth certs and all that. This is why the Guiness book of Records will not accept any longevity records for people dying before the early 1900's.
     
  12. Kumar Registered Senior Member

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    That may only be the confusion. So many aspects related to before say about 1925, may be much related to complications due to modren civilization, over-population, pollutions, commercialization etc. like diabetes, cancer, hypertentions, hyper acidity etc. & lastly the effect on our longevity ( not average life). We should compare & judge every complication accordingly to really understand it fully.
     
  13. John Connellan Valued Senior Member

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    I don't think cancer is caused by modern civilisation per se. Cancer has become more widespread this century because people are living longer!
     
  14. spuriousmonkey Banned Banned

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    and cancer is now diagnosed as cancer.
     
  15. Kumar Registered Senior Member

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    What can basically, mutate cells which then become cancerous?

    Some good article indicates:-
     
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  16. Prester John The voice of Reason! Registered Senior Member

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    Kumar, i suggest you read about Tumour Suppressor Genes and Oncogenes to get a basic understanding of carcinogenesis.
     
  17. spuriousmonkey Banned Banned

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    They can do it themselves
     
  18. Kumar Registered Senior Member

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    Sorry, I edited & added to my previous post after you posted.

    Hello PJ, I am more interested in 'basic/real reason/cause'.
     
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  19. John Connellan Valued Senior Member

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    free radical damage from your food is a major cause!
     
  20. Kumar Registered Senior Member

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    But there can be some relation between free radical & body pHs.
     
  21. John Connellan Valued Senior Member

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    If there is, then pH IS important in aging etc.
     
  22. Kumar Registered Senior Member

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    It can/should be, as mentioned in link provided.
     
  23. John Connellan Valued Senior Member

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    I really don't think that it can be too damaging, independednt of its effects on free radical formation however.
     

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