Aging

Discussion in 'Biology & Genetics' started by Asexperia, Dec 15, 2019.

  1. just me Registered Senior Member

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    I find it a little bit nauseating.
    nature doesn't care about me, just the purposeless continuation of the species.
    but I care about me, and so I will fight nature and its diabolical plans for me and win.
    just like humanity has in other ways.
     
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  3. just me Registered Senior Member

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    this is the only obtainable route to immortality I could find.
    it wont make me better, like becoming a robot would, but at least it might make me immortal, and hence buy me some more time to become better.
     
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  5. elte Valued Senior Member

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    The body has programming in the genes, especially in stem cells, that tells it how to keep going. Eventually, the program becomes corrupted. That's how I would explain it in a casual way.
     
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  7. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Becoming a robot would not make you better unless you define your idea of "better".

    Would you live longer? No. Currently, the lifespan for a robot with an uploaded human consciousness is ... zero.

    Sure, you can speculate that - sometime in the future - that lifespan will increase.
    But the same thing can be said for our human bodies too.
     
  8. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Ir's still not that simple. Just because the genes tell it to "keep going" doesn't mean it can.
     
  9. globali Registered Senior Member

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    what is NMN and what is TA-65?
     
  10. just me Registered Senior Member

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    the lifespan is 0 because there are none.

    my idea of better is stronger, faster, more accurate, less fragile, the usual stuff.
     
  11. just me Registered Senior Member

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    their medicines.
    NMN binds to the chemical which prevents the DNA repair process, stopping it from doing so,
    and triggers the release of chemicals to make sure the fixed up genes are expressed properly.

    and TA-65 is a telomerase inducer.
    telomerase is a chemical which builds protective but otherwise useless DNA in the cell.
     
  12. just me Registered Senior Member

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    so we replace the way the body is replaced also, and the way that is replaced, and so on up until a point at which the renewal occurs irrespective of us.
     
  13. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Uh yes.
    I don't think anyone doubts how you might build a robot body strong as steel and durable and self-repairing. These are not really breakthrough ideas.

    It's kind of like saying "I know how we can get to other stars. We build a big-ass rocket with a big-ass motor and a bunch of fuel. Problem solved."

    The devil is in the details.
     
  14. just me Registered Senior Member

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    I'm not talking about that,
    I'm talking about replacing the way the biological body is replaced.
     
  15. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    I know you are.

    Yes, artificial bodies will be self-repairing. That goes without saying. This is not a new idea.
     
  16. just me Registered Senior Member

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    no I'm not talking about artificial bodies, I'm talking about maintaining the biological body in this manner, specifically by renewing telomeres so that cells can continue to divide properly.
     
  17. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Either way, simply deciding that we can live longer by deciding to repair our bodies is still not exactly an Earth-shattering revelation.

    As previously pointed out, it's kind of like saying "I know how we can get to other stars. We build a big-ass rocket with a big-ass motor and a bunch of fuel. Problem solved."

    Well ... sure.

    People who are pursing longevity research don't really need to be told "Why not get the body to repair itself?" any more than rocket scientists need to be told to "Why not build a rocket?"

    The devil is in the details.
     
  18. just me Registered Senior Member

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    but I have already thought through the details.
    healthy genes = healthy cells = healthy body.

    NMN repairs genes and makes sure they're expressed properly, and TA-65 builds buffer DNA to protect genes and keep them that way.
     
  19. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Those are not details.

    "I have already thought through the details to get to the stars: big ship, big engine, lots of fuel."
     

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