Al Qaeda's man in the White House...

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Undecided, Apr 26, 2004.

  1. Undecided Banned Banned

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    Throughout the last couple of weeks I have been hearing from many posters, most specifically oth about the way the Kerry is Al Q's man for the White House. Well now we have confirmation of Al Q's man in the White House:

    http://www.payk.net/mailingLists/iran-news/html/current/msg00809.html

    I was watching crossfire with James Carville, telling the conservative Tie wearing nerd this quote. It shot him dead in the water, as I have been saying repeatedly Bush is Al Q's #1 man; he is their biggest recruiter in the Middle East. This is one endorsement you won't be hearing on Bush's ads. So if you want Al Q to be satisfied you know whom to vote for.
     
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    I was UNDECIDED, until now.....

    Now, I think you're a kool dude "UNDECIDED!"

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  5. Yazan the truth is always hidden. Registered Senior Member

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    In the east they say if you are a big and tough guy don’t bit your little neighbor just because you can, since he still a kid, because this weak kid will be a tough young man in the future, where you will be at that time an old guy.
    Most people in the east especially Muslims are convinced that they are in the situation of the previous kid, and America (In general all countries of aggressive attitudes against Arab and Muslims) is the young man (initially). They are really looking forward for the future.
    My point is that,
    Although most of the Easterns wish to see Bush a dead body, some of them want him to stay the president of the US. Because they believe that the end day for the US (which they are looking for) would be sooner if he stays the president.

    Yazan
     
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  7. Undecided Banned Banned

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    Bush is quite possibly en par with Mr.Sharon and the house of Saud in terms of hatred and of immense worth in terms of propaganda value. The more Bush stays in office the more terrorists will be recruited, Bush is not fighting the war on terrorism he is helping it last longer and stronger. This is confirmation of America's fears, but it will be disregarded, and knowing Americans they will rally behind Bush in defiance against this note. I've never liked reactionaries...
     
  8. hungvu Proud American Registered Senior Member

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    Undecided,

    Read your own typing and you should realize that you are, at least in my book, definitely a liberal. Even Whirlwind seemed to think so as well.

    The only people that president Bush, Mr. Sharon or Saud hate are the terrorists whose only wish is to kill Americans, Jews or Saudies. These leaders are trying their best to protect their citizens. The only best realistic course of action right now is killing as many terrorists as possible from wherever they are and I hope they will not stop until all terrorists are gone. Yes, America is definitely "feared" of a possible future attack like or even greater than 9/11 and this is mainly why Americans should rally behind their president and let him do whatever necessary to keep America as safe as possible. You may disregard it but it will not be disregarded by me and by many other Americans so speak for yourself.

    PS: Has my English improved? I have already tried my best and in my book, my best is always good enough for me so if my English is not good enough for you, go pound some sand while Whirlwind blows some wind.
     
  9. Undecided Banned Banned

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    Read your own typing and you should realize that you are, at least in my book, definitely a liberal. Even Whirlwind seemed to think so as well

    I am not a liberal, I am progressive.

    These leaders are trying their best to protect their citizens.

    They are all doing the worst thing possible to stem the flow of terrorism. I think that invading Iraq for no good reason is a perfect example. They are surely going to love you now eh? Too bad anti-Americanism has actually increased post-Iraq. Wasn’t it supposed to decrease? It's funny that Al Q had to establish itself in Iraq post-Saddam. They are not protecting you, they are protecting their interests.

    Yes, America is definitely "feared" of a possible future attack like or even greater than 9/11 and this is mainly why Americans should rally behind their president and let him do whatever necessary to keep America as safe as possible.

    Interesting same child like logic was used with Hitler after the Reichstag fire of 1933. Rallying behind the "flag" is for the idiotic masses to do, and they have done it so well so many times in the past. This is why democracy should be limited to those who have independently thinking brains...

    You may disregard it but it will not be disregarded by me and by many other Americans so speak for yourself.


    Or those millions of Germans all those years ago. You poor Drone you....
     
  10. Demosthenes X Registered Member

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    Incorrect. George Bush is actually doing something towards the terrorists in the Middle East, and terrorist links have shown up. Remember a certain Libya surrendering enough WMD's to level the entire country of Isreal? Indeed, he has saved more lifes than he has taken. It is better to die than to not be free. Would you rather die, or live under oppressive communism/totalitarianism?
     
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    George Bush is actually doing something towards the terrorists in the Middle East

    Your right he has, all indications show that Al Q is stronger now then it was before 9.11. So power has Bush's influence has been it's transformed from an organization into a movement. Bush has given then a nice big ample base in Iraq, so you are 100% correct.

    Remember a certain Libya surrendering enough WMD's to level the entire country of Isreal?

    Libya has been opening up since 1998, this was a natural conclusion. This has more to do with Libya's president wanting to open up, rather then being scared of the US. It started under Clinton.

    It is better to die than to not be free. Would you rather die, or live under oppressive communism/totalitarianism?

    What's with the false dichotomy? Bush is turning the US into the latter, look up the Patriot Act, you Patriot. Do you work for a propaganda ministry by happens chance?
     
  12. hungvu Proud American Registered Senior Member

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    read your own typing again and you should realize that you are now more left than the liberals. You have turned yourself into a socialist.

    Am I supposed to be laughing because it sounds funny? Eliminating as many terrorists as possible is the "worst thing possible"? Making a country located inside the chaotic region where most Islamic extremists come from democratic is not a good reason? Anti-Americanism has always existed but they were not shown before but now there are plenty of things to blame so they now come out and use them. I do not think it was supposed to be decreased because most people in the world hate America anyway for its success. If I am correct, you are calling president Bush an Al Queda terrorist. The worst name that liberals have used so far against president Bush is traitor, but you call him "Al Qaeda". Don't you realize that you are more left than the leftists now?

    The Reichstag fire resulted in a goverment that can take away the following from its citizen: Free expression of opinion, Freedom of the press, Right of assembly and association, Right to privacy of postal and electronic communications, Protection against unlawful searches and seizures, Individual property rights, States' right of self-government. Ridiculously, you want to use and Hitler, German citizens and this incident to compare to president Bush, Americans and 9/11. President Bush did not even have any attempt to take away those rights from Americans. The best comparison that the liberals have at this time is comparing this war to Vietnam but you have taken, again, another additional step to the left. Maybe you are right to deny that you are not a liberal because by now you should call yourself a socialist.

    You still think that you are independent at this time? If yes, then read your own statement above again and you should see that it sounds like something that comes from a communist because in communism, people are not supposed to think but only those who has the power are supposed to have the right to think. Communism is already at the left end so take a break and stop marching left!
     
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    read your own typing again and you should realize that you are now more left than the liberals. You have turned yourself into a socialist.

    I suggest you learn what socialist means, I do not favour socialist economic models. A socialist would not support Globalization like I do. Think again... (This is the third time you say something without knowing what it means, and more are to come).

    Eliminating as many terrorists as possible is the "worst thing possible"?

    Unlike normal wars where you have a set amount of soldiers, here you have a population of 1.3 billion persons who are the army (Islam). You can kill OBL all you want, but three more will pop up. You can get rid of one cell there are certainly more ready and wiling to do the job. The people in the Islamic world who are classified as "terrorists" want you to kill them so the movement can spread. “Martyrdom, self-sacrifice” they want to lure you in so you can't get out, they sure have done it as well. This is not cut and dry boy.

    Making a country located inside the chaotic region where most Islamic extremists come from democratic is not a good reason?

    Exactly.

    I do not think it was supposed to be decreased because most people in the world hate America anyway for its success.

    Wow who told you these lies? Most people in the Middle East hate the US for its foreign policy, and they have a right to be angry as well. It's not America's success (that's what you want to believe) it's what America has done, and it doing.

    If I am correct, you are calling president Bush an Al Queda terrorist.

    As usual you are not correct, I am saying that Bush's policy is doing nothing but furthering AL Q's cause. Read the endorsement from Al Q they explain it well enough.

    Don't you realize that you are more left than the leftists now?

    Don't you realize you sound like an idiot?

    The Reichstag fire resulted in a goverment that can take away the following from its citizen: Free expression of opinion, Freedom of the press, Right of assembly and association, Right to privacy of postal and electronic communications, Protection against unlawful searches and seizures, Individual property rights, States' right of self-government.

    Although in the US it may not be to the same extent, the historical premise is still there. I don't know too much about the Act, but others do. They can tell you what rights you don't have now.

    Ridiculously, you want to use and Hitler, German citizens and this incident to compare to president Bush, Americans and 9/11.

    It's a fair comparison; my comparison was not the taking away of rights. You alone came up with that tangent. My point was the point that a national tragedy of a nationalistic symbol galvanizes the population against the "enemy" and people rally behind their leader. You yourself have admitted this, the Reichstag fire is only one of many examples. 9/11 was America’s Reichstag.

    You still think that you are independent at this time?

    I am bias, I am human. But I am far more independent thinking then ilk like yourself.

    If yes, then read your own statement above again and you should see that it sounds like something that comes from a communist because in communism, people are not supposed to think but only those who has the power are supposed to have the right to think. Communism is already at the left end so take a break and stop marching left!

    I suggest you learn what communism is, because no where does it outline the ridiculously ignorant things you have just said. Also it is impossible for me to a communist when I am a capitalist. DING!
     
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  14. hungvu Proud American Registered Senior Member

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    I obviously was not able to get through your left thinkings but I tried so I will be short on this one because making it long will make things become a circle again.

    For your information, I lived under Communism for 7 years so I suggest that you take your suggestion upon yourself!
     
  15. guthrie paradox generator Registered Senior Member

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    Demosthenes-
    "Libya surrendering enough WMD's to level the entire country of Isreal?"

    What? I dont recall them having anything more than preliminary research programs.
     
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    I obviously was not able to get through your left thinkings but I tried so I will be short on this one because making it long will make things become a circle again.

    Surrender #2, at least you knew when to stop thank you.

    For your information, I lived under Communism for 7 years so I suggest that you take your suggestion upon yourself!

    Actually you most likely lived under Stalinism, sadly for you communism has yet to be achieved.

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