That's the "gaming" that the fringe proponents have learned to do. Start a thread with a question (play dumb) and then halfway though the discussion they jump on some minute point and manage to shift the discussion to the fringe. Now we are talking about inflation valves on balloons, the fact that there are other kinds of balloons and misinterpreting the Big Bang illustration and throwing in terms like "a dot on a slice of time and not space". We're talking about "your view that there is no center" when it's not "your" view but rather the mainstream view that the whole explanation is based on. I don't see that having the fringe sections has resulted in cleaning up the science sections. All it has done is draw more fringe to the site and it has made every forum a fringe forum.