Amnesty International and Hamas

Discussion in 'World Events' started by BenTheMan, Feb 19, 2009.

  1. spidergoat Liddle' Dick Tater Valued Senior Member

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    If Palestinians did not accept partition then they would be occupying Jewish land.
     
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  3. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Why should they accept partition? It's where their fathers and mothers were buried
     
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  5. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    Why should the Israelis accept partition, they won, and let the Dead take care of their own.
     
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  7. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    The Israelis are not required to accept or reject anything. Occupiers always have the choice of going back where they came from.
     
  8. copernicus66 Banned Banned

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    Most Jews originally 'came' from Israel.
     
  9. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Not according to the Torah, if you go by mythology.

    If you go by history, the Jews are descendents of nomads who adopted El, the god of Canaan and transformed him into YHWH. Just like the Romans adopted Jesus and transformed him to the trinity.

    The Jews are as native to Canaan as the Romans
     
  10. StrawDog disseminated primatemaia Valued Senior Member

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    Nah, The girl intimidates you big boy. Eh?
     
  11. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    So is the Quran any less a mythology? than the Torah? if that is the Tack you wish to take?

    The Ummah is then a mythology, and the Jews have a right to the land they hold by right of Victory over Arab Muslims.

    But all to often, the rallying cry is Infidels in the Ummah, the Dirty Jew is on the Holy Land of the Ummah.
     
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  13. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    If that rag is the best reference you can find, Allah help you, and you want to dismiss others citation as biased.
     
  14. StrawDog disseminated primatemaia Valued Senior Member

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    No. My argument rests on the FACT that the Arabs that had lived on the land for countless generations, were forcibly DISPLACED by foreigners, the majority of which were European Jews.

    In a perfect world, were there would be no such thing as colonialism, and your "inalienable" right fantasy would not occurr. But now that it HAS happened, there is NO reason that a CERTAIN measure of justice and humility from the Zionists cannot prevail.
     
  15. StrawDog disseminated primatemaia Valued Senior Member

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    No. That rag is an intellectual challenge my friend. Don`t bother.
     
  16. copernicus66 Banned Banned

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    No. The Jews are just another band of Canaanites, as were the Palestinians. Both the Jews and Palestinians are native to the land of Israel. The Jews were just unfortunate enough to get their asses booted out, and scattered across the Middle-East, Europe and Africa.
     
  17. spidergoat Liddle' Dick Tater Valued Senior Member

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    Now you are being xenophobic. A significant number of Jews came from somewhere else, so what?
     
  18. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    They never got booted out either. That's fiction.

    White Russians and Europeans are not Middle Eastern Palestinians anymore than they are Chinese
     
  19. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    Yes, it is intellectually challenged.
     
  20. Vkothii Banned Banned

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    That one has to be an own-goal.
     
  21. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    On that logic most cajuns in the US originally came from France - which does not entitle them to half of Paris, or justify their fencing the Bretons into seaside ghettos where they can be starved at whim.
     
  22. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    Or dhimmitude; but you think it has some kind of unifying principle.

    And it's where Jews were living in 1948; they amounted to about half the population of the region of Partition, so you can't say it wasn't fair. I thought you were against ethnic cleansing. Maybe it depends on the ethnicity?
     
  23. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    If a billion Muslims moved by force to the US they would constitute 3/4 of the population. No need for a partition, by electoral representation they could overturn the constitution and create a sharia state, declaring it Dar-al Islam.

    Fortunately(for you), we do not recognise such immigration as giving right to the land. Palestinian Jews were less than 7% of the population. Jews who were not citizens of Palestine cannot be expected to impose a right to a land that is not theirs to partition.
     

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