An interesting gravitational problem

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  1. TonyYuan Gravitational Fields and Gravitational Waves Registered Senior Member

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    My paper has been uploaded to figshare.
    https://figshare.com/articles/thesis/Gravitational_Fields_and_Gravitational_Waves/14274932

    The following is a discussion between me and a professor.
    Hi professor,
    I have noticed that the Venus precession data 8.6" obtained by GR calculation is very inconsistent with actual observations. Is there any accurate data now? I also calculated the precession data of the eight major planets in the solar system.

    Mercury 43”
    Venus 240”
    Earth 3”
    Mars 1”
    Jupiter 0.8”
    Saturn 0.1
    Except for Venus which is 240", other data are consistent with GR. I want to know which of 8.6" vs 240" is correct.

    Thanks.
    Tony

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    I am not an expert on astronomy so I cannot answer your question whether your calculations are right. But since 5 out of 6 answers are correct ... there are good reasons to assume also your Venus-computation is correct. But since I have worked with GR for 50 years now - I can assure this theory is misleading. So, we are stuck in the classical problem - we know THAT GR is misleading - but not HOW. But we will find out some day! This problem in fact has stalled all science --- we know THAT it doesn't work - but cannot yet say HOW .... This is a serious scientific problem ... the sciences refuse to address the issue of theirs own impotencies. This attitude is called Ockham's razor - or refusing to cut down the sick branch you yourself are sitting on. However --- children know how to solve this problem - jump off the branch first and cut it down afterwards! Best wishes.

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    I have a lot of exchanges with Professor of Austin, Texas. He said that my theory is a strong proof of GR, but I don't think so. GR is a mathematical model of gravity, and mine is a physical model of gravity. Gravitational waves are real, and the chasing effect of gravitational waves is also real. According to this physical model, a new gravitational equation is derived. Applying this gravitational equation to planetary orbit calculations, the obtained precession data is also in line with actual observations. I am also convinced that the mathematical model described by GR is essentially the gravitational force under the influence of the chasing effect(Doppler effect) of gravitational waves.


     
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  3. TonyYuan Gravitational Fields and Gravitational Waves Registered Senior Member

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    I have recently fallen into confusion. After I communicated with several gravitation experts, they all told me that they were not experts in this field. I don’t know where is the gravity expert?
     
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  5. TonyYuan Gravitational Fields and Gravitational Waves Registered Senior Member

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    I very much hope that my theory is wrong, because if it is correct, then Einstein's theory of relativity will end.

    But none of the physics professors who have read my paper can point out any mistakes. This makes me very disappointed. Will Einstein end up in my hands?

    I hope GR scholars will use your strength. I am challenging GR, challenging the field you call home.
     
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  7. TonyYuan Gravitational Fields and Gravitational Waves Registered Senior Member

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    James R,
    I have shared my paper, and I hope to have more discussions with you. You are a gravitationalist worthy of my respect.
     
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  8. TonyYuan Gravitational Fields and Gravitational Waves Registered Senior Member

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    I have shared my paper on my personal homepage. You will be interested in the physical model of gravity proposed by me, it is not difficult to understand.

    I am very confident that the results obtained by GR on the orbital precession of Venus is wrong.

    In my country, almost all the gravity professors I know refuse to comment publicly on my paper. They can't see any mistakes, but it challenges GR.
     
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  9. JJM Registered Senior Member

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    • Please don't post pseudoscience in the Science subforums.
    Enjoy this......FG=(m)(m')/r^2)G Now look closely, if m is Einstein SR for mass ( mass velocity cannot equal the speed of light (its mass and energy to accelerate it would need infinity.), and the m' is Newton and the Einstein mass is in a geometrical container that duplicates the environment and its' 'mass' is proportional to the Newton mass, then as E mechanical mass increases it will become proportional and be attracted to m'. The container will be attracted to m', and great velocity of the whole container will happen as it is 'pulled' gravitation ally A mechanical apple falling from the tree of Earth.........
     
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  10. TonyYuan Gravitational Fields and Gravitational Waves Registered Senior Member

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    I have uploaded my program, you can run it yourself to get planetary orbit data.
    1. Select the planet (1 --- 7)
    2. Set the time interval (0.01s --- 1.0s)
    3. Choose to enable/disable gravitational waves

    You can download them.
     

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  11. Dennis Tate Valued Senior Member

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    You have really caught my attention with this statement!

    Back in the 1990's Stephen Hawking Ph. d. stated that GRAVITY would not seem to fit with String Theory confined to ten dimensions of space time so he then felt that the mathematics would have to be developed for at least one extra dimension before all four forces of gravity, electromagnetism, weak and strong nuclear force could be fully explained by String Theory.

    Do you see any possible correlation between that dilemma that Dr. Hawking was facing three decades ago with your big questions?

    For the record I wondered if there might be two... as opposed to merely one truly fundamental energy. I guessed that one fundamental energy might be somewhat like SuperStrings and the other one somewhat like Super Waves. I assumed that Gravity was likely connected to SuperWaves somehow..... if the idea of there being two truly fundamental energies in existence even before the Big Bang???
     
  12. JJM Registered Senior Member

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    Wouldn't it be interesting, if boundary layer of of compression were so dense that it creates 'strings', and other layers allow for other states.?????
     
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    This thread has now parted company from physics completely.

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  14. QuarkHead Remedial Math Student Valued Senior Member

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    Physics as you know it, dear boy. Don't you realize that you are in the presence of visionaries?

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  15. TonyYuan Gravitational Fields and Gravitational Waves Registered Senior Member

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    New program version.
    The algorithm of the new version has not changed, but the human-computer interaction will be clearer.

    I have started to write programs in Python so that it can visually draw planetary orbits.
     

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