Ancient Aliens Debunked

Discussion in 'Pseudoscience' started by Arne Saknussemm, Aug 9, 2014.

  1. Arne Saknussemm trying to figure it all out Valued Senior Member

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    Maybe this sub-forum is meant for just the opposite of Ancient Aliens Debunked, but I am going to go ahead and post here anyway. I hope that's all right.

    Surfing the rough seas of the world wide web, I came across this three-hour documentary which discusses just the subject its name suggests.

    There is no need to watch it from start to finish. It has sections on all the usual ancient aliens bunk from Nazca lines, alien-built pyramids and other well known ancient cities and sites, ancient Hindu flying saucers, UFOs in medieval religious paintings, the Anunnaki, the Mayan crystal skull and more!! - relying heavily on knocking the stuffing out of the infamous Ancient Aliens that was originally broadcast on The History Channel. All is explained in a rational way or revealed as lies and fabrications. You can skim ahead to what interests you.

    I found it interesting to learn that the Sumerian Great Flood legend is not a precursor to the Hebrew legend at all. You can forward to about 2:47:01, if you also find this topic particularly interesting'

    It's all good, and it's all wonderfully anti-woo. I invite you to discussion about it here. Enjoy!
     
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  3. river

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    if the groves in the blocks were rope marks , how did they not drag the blocks into place
     
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  7. zgmc Registered Senior Member

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    WHat part of the video do they go over that?
     
  8. river

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    Early on , maybe , 15-20 minutes or so , didn't take notice to be honest
     
  9. zgmc Registered Senior Member

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    Just checked out that guys YouTube page. Looks like this is a bible based "debunking".
     
  10. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    If so, he's quite subtle.
    He doesn't even mention the Bible.
    Not in the first ten minutes anyway.
    Maybe he's building up to it.

    Mind you.
    Anyone who believes in Alien Archaeology is ripe for conversion to Young Earth Creationism.
    Just swap one lot of potty nonsense for another.
     
  11. zgmc Registered Senior Member

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    Thats exactly why he is doing the debunking. The YECs don't want to lose any of their flock to the Alien crowd.
     
  12. Boris2 Valued Senior Member

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  13. Arne Saknussemm trying to figure it all out Valued Senior Member

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    Nice link there, Boris. Thank you.

    @zgmc: It’s not Bible-based debunking. I have strong Christian leanings myself, and I didn't notice anything that felt at all pro-Christian the whole way through. If anything, I thought he came off as an agnostic with a grudging respect for Hebrew scholarship. He never mentions Christianity or the Bible except in the context of UFOs in medieval art, which he does with no particular attitude toward the religion itself. Toward the end (2:48) He talks about Sumerian accounts of the Flood Story not being logically consistent and being unconcerned with details, often changing them in different texts - also that the Hebrew Bible, as is commonly assumed by agnostics, did not lift the Flood legend from Sumerian text, rather that they come from a common source. He mentions that accuracy and true preservation have always been of the utmost importance to Jewish scribes. Just before that he says that the many flood legends around the world have too many similarities that are too obvious to simply dismiss as myth. In any case, his whole point is that the ‘giants’ who lived in the Earth in those days’ were just large people and not alien/gods as the Ancient Alienists would have us believe. Is that too pro-Bible for you? Just watching for a few minutes from 2:48 makes it clear there is no particular Christian agenda here. It’s all just about debunking the always ridiculous ancient alien hypothesis.
     
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  14. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    Does it need debunking at all?
    Few people believe in Alien Archaeology anyway.
    What's the point?
     
  15. zgmc Registered Senior Member

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    I just looked at the titles of his other videos. He may do a fine job of debunking. I don't plan on watching it. Usually when people are that hung up on the bible you can bet that they aren't taking a scientific approach.
     
  16. Arne Saknussemm trying to figure it all out Valued Senior Member

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    A bet I'd win is if I bet that you weren't taking a scientific approach yourself. No one cares if you watch Chris White's videos or not. I have shown that he's not hung up on The Bible, since it seemed important to you, and you apparently are yourself hung up on the Bible. You smell 'Bible' and don't want to know since in the grandest SciForum tradition your mind is already made up before you have examined anything, and you are unwilling to take any one's word for anything. If you are going to doubt me, at least look into whether what I say is true. Don't just assume that I am wrong please. What Chris White, or I, think about the Bible has nothing to do with the video.
     
  17. zgmc Registered Senior Member

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    Chris white is a biblical literalist. Why should I take his word for anything? He does some debunking, then comes on with the whole Noah's flood is for real stuff, so now I'm supposed to believe that too. Good try.
     
  18. zgmc Registered Senior Member

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    HE was a commenter in the video, he didn't produce it.
     
  19. madethesame Banned Banned

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    i suppose their never existed ancient greys and other stuff. though this is my speculation.
    the gods have been made aliens by the people who find 'scientific' evidence of their existence.
    many historians are still stuck with this 3000 B.C. big bang complex, though they have become anti-religious from outside, the religion still affects their understanding.
    it is written in ancient writings that gods used flying machines, the gods were not people not a personality. they are eternal cosmic coefficients.
    Mr David Icke is scaring people with his reptiles, he never mentions India. people like Michael Shermer don't accept that electricity (Bhagdad Battery) was known to ancient people, he want 'wires' 'used' by to support the electricity evidence.
     
  20. madethesame Banned Banned

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    it can also be said aliens are new forms of 'demons'
     

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