aortic valve calcium deposits

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  1. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    question:
    anyone have experience with aortic valve calcium deposits

    from a plumbing perspective, the 4 heart valves seem to be check valves
    if so then
    could/would calcium deposits make the valve less effective?
    then
    should I want to eliminate the calcium deposits
    what approach would be best?
    chelating agents?
    or vitamin supplements like K2

    dangers of chelating agents?
    ...........................
    this is uncharted territory for me so any input would most likely fill in the charts?
     
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  3. wegs Matter and Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    What has your doctor suggested? (I'm assuming a doctor diagnosed you.) Are you taking any meds for this?
     
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  5. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    no,
    nothing yet
    Current system has gp meetings followed by tests followed by meetings followed by tests followed by gp meetings followed by different tests

    I tend to do my own research,
    then have the ability to converse with a suitable understanding about just what in hell we are discussing.

    I'm reasonably certain that when I discuss this with my gp,(next week) he will want to refer me to a cardiologist who will most likely want different test done-----(days---weeks---?)

    I get the feeling that I am 3 steps into a journey of a thousand miles
    whatever
    It should prove interesting
    (starting the K2 this week---don't see much of a downside)
    ..................................
    meanwhile, the proctologist couldn't get the scope beyond the bend where the transverse colon meets the descending colon, so I get to go through that ordeal again with a different proctologist--------
    ..........................
    I just started with this new gp a few weeks ago, and he seems hell bent on finding everything that is wrong with this old body( much of which is surprising me)
    .............
    ain't like an old truck where you might decide that the maintenance is costing too damned much and you would be better off buying a new one.
    .................
    whither hence?
     
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  7. wegs Matter and Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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  8. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    i am reading what i can find
    dont know anything about it

    from rough memory calcium is critical to brain/neuron function.

    glancing at some comments it first makes me wonder if people with higher brain functions are more at risk because they may potentially have a greater flow of calcium or better ability to process it in the blood ?
    one may negate the severity of the other ?

    my point is your question around specified calcium celation and how that may effect the brain for any length or time or over all quantity etc.
    chemicals that may help remove calcium from the blood and if that may interfere with memory and neural processes.

    are there celation techniques that process externally so no chemicals are put directly into the blood stream that may reduce calcium availability in the brain ?
    i am thinking from a best practice point not an alarmist point so my apologies if it sounds a little alarmist.
     
  9. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    here is the mayo clinic description
    READ THIS PAGE

    https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/aortic-stenosis/diagnosis-treatment/drc-20353145

    this sounds fairly safe and logical
    this person is selling something called "blood flow optimizer"
    a collection of herbs/teas & amino acids and some other stuff.


    however, if your healthy and do all that kinda stuff eat an anti inflammatory diet and do a bit of weights & cardio
    AND have aortic valve calcium deposits ...
    then you may need some type of special cocktail of things that helps remove the calcium from your blood


    mayo clinic on ...
    https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases...expert-answers/chelation-therapy/faq-20157449


    Quantification of Dialytic Removal and Extracellular Calcium Mass Balance during a Weekly Cycle of Hemodialysis

    https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0153285

     
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  10. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    here is the mayo clinic description
    READ THIS PAGE

    https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/aortic-stenosis/diagnosis-treatment/drc-20353145
    Aortic valve stenosis
     
  11. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    Drop your heart off at the shop, get a rental. They'll get it back to you in three days unless they find further issues.
     
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  12. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    Are you the guy who left cigar smoke in the powder magazine?
     
  13. candy Valued Senior Member

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    Most of the B complex and vitamin C are chelating agents.
     
  14. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yerba_mate#Chemical_composition_and_properties
    Mechanism of action
    E-NTPDase activity
    Research also shows that mate preparations can alter the concentration of members of the ecto-nucleoside triphosphate diphosphohydrolase (E-NTPDase) family, resulting in an elevated level of extracellular ATP, ADP, and AMP. This was found with chronic ingestion (15 days) of an aqueous mate extract, and may lead to a novel mechanism for manipulation of vascular regenerative factors, i.e., treating heart disease.[medical citation needed]
     
  15. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Do they have other options you can tick off for a replacement valve other than pig heart valve?

    That might be problem for some

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  16. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    wow
    there's an eye opener
    this learning curve could be fun
     
  17. Stoniphi obscurely fossiliferous Valued Senior Member

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    Howdy boys. I just started a daily VK2 supplement due to some very optimistic recent research on its role in slowing progression of acinar adenocarcinoma prostate cancer. While researching this, I found this link regarding its role in heart valve stenosis:

    Slower Progress of Aortic Valve Calcification With Vitamin K Supplementation

    https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/pdf/10.1161/CIRCULATIONAHA.116.027011

    VK2 also appears to stop bone loss in post menopausal women as per a Japanese study and to preserve bone density during leuprolide chem therapy for acinar adenocarcinoma. I am planning to try this as an alternative to Prolia.

    So is that fun enough, friend sculptor?

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  18. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    me too------K2
    and the question
    Why only on the aortic valve?
    remains unanswered

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  19. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    No, I'm the guy with the radio and a flight of B-52s overhead.
     

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