Are all Climate crisis deniers conspiracy theorists?

Discussion in 'Earth Science' started by Quantum Quack, Sep 25, 2019.

  1. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

    I tend to think that they are...
    What say you?
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  3. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

    it is not so much as they believe in not believing
    they adhere to an ideology as a cult follower
    they have the mind of cult followers

    you will notice they all share standard religious base lines in Christianity
    where they have been indoctrinated as children into a false sense of power & authority models
    this has been subverted into a concept of religion.
    so their ability to have faith and trust is proxy to a process of religious attachment.

    it is leant up against the psyche from a position of lack of personal development
    where the inner person feels something is missing

    they simply swap this feeling of something missing for the religious indoctrination to fill the gap
    be that climate change denial or denial of human rights etc...

    you wont find any vegetarian or vegan climate change deniers
    this is because vegetarianism and veganism adheres to human premise concepts of empathy
    while religious indoctrination subverts human rights and empathy and installs genocide as an ideological acceptable process
    be that against a single person or a group of people.

    you see this being played out by American self acclaimed Christians who are anti Muslims and see muslims from a xenophobic position
    the opposing religion is seen as a foreign invader to the self identity(this is not specific to any particular religion & is a typical effect of all religious indoctrination of children with corrupted power & control).
    acceptance and common human empathy has been whipped out of them by the church or local culture.
    west borough baptist etc etc
    many examples

    you must always remember that in the usa
    power and authority is corrupted by greed
    so all things are defined as driven by personal greed
    no money no play
    this is what the religious ideology is based on as a moral absolute
    conspiracy theorists are a product of this culture.
    corrupted power & control
    lack of trust in a government that puts money before people
    culture that puts profit before people
    religion that drives invasive ideological white washing of small childrens minds
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  5. billvon Valued Senior Member

    Not at all. Some simply believe FOX News, and are too ignorant to look outside of that source. Some feel their identity is tied to denial of a "liberal" issue. Some hate Al Gore, and find that the only way they can sustain their hate is to deny climate change. Some simply can't understand the issues at all.

    When in doubt I fall back on Hanlon's Razor: "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
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  7. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

    What has Fox news been saying about the climate crisis?
  8. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

    By now, they pretty much have to be. There is so much consensus in the scientific communities that in order to keep denying, you either have to reject science altogether, or cling to the notion that scientists are all being duped by a small cabal with a vested interest. (Oddly enough, the vested interest theory looks pretty thin when you compare the quantities of money dispersed over 97% of climate scientists to that spent on denial outlets and lobbies.)
    PS Malice can always find ample hiding space behind stupidity.
  9. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

    What inspired this topic was the social media reaction ( some ) to this speech by Greta Thunderberg to the UN climate summit a few days ago.

    A strong post that stood out was as follows ( spelling mistakes included):

    "Does any one feel like me, a nurse in mental health, a great concern for the "manulation" of this "unwell" child"

    Claiming that Greta was being manipulated and that she is mentally unwell.

    Pure "poison" is how I would assess it...

    Of course there are many posts to FB that are along similar lines but this spelt it out rather more clearly.
    A Conspiracy theorists denial of the facts and the attempt to poison the credibility of any speaker that contradicts the conspiracy theorists point of view.
  10. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

    is not a mental health professional
    they are a hack-domestic helper assisting a person with dementia.. probably an old folks home

    their illusion of gretas sexual-identity and sense of individualism to have an opinion is a conflict to their personal sexual identity and gender bigotry.

    how they choose to play that out as hate is just a different type of hate

    they want her to be ignorant idle and chasing materialism to serve their own sexual satisfaction.

    the correct term is psychological terrorism
  11. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

  12. parmalee peripatetic artisan Valued Senior Member

    I've always struggled with this one. Sure, stupidity--or ignorance--often seems the most likely scenario, but...

    witness this exchange between John Kerry and Rep. John Massey (transcript below, for those who hate YouTube responses--though it's a good watch!)

    So, is Massey simply an imbecile, or is he a mediocre--and malicious--bullshitter? I've zero doubt that there aren't tens of thousands of... people who viewed that clip, and saw Massey as the "winner" of the exchange.
  13. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

    "Plucky band of billionaires..."
  14. parmalee peripatetic artisan Valued Senior Member


    Edit: Incidentally, Massey studied robotics at MIT, and so I am reasonably certain that he knows what political science is and why it is considered liberal arts.

    Edit 2: I clicked edit above, I don't know why it posted as a response rather than an edit.
  15. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

    I wonder whether it's possible that the practice of evil causes one to lose IQ points over time....
  16. billvon Valued Senior Member

    "Climate change revision is the reformation of the new global warming cult. It's the religion of the Left."

    "Climate freaks shut down traffic in Washington, D.C., on Monday. As this idiocy rolls on, we should note that people trying to go to work and put food on their tables don't hurt the environment. Creating endless blocks of idling cars and trucks does. Which is what that tantrum did."

    For a quick summary.
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  17. Write4U Valued Senior Member

    I doubt it. "Practice makes perfect" holds for all "skills".
  18. Ocelot Guest

    Not necessarily all conspiracy theorists but universally pathetic.
    How much f&cking evidence do they need?
    Universally pathetic, universally devoid of capacity for reasonable (let alone critical) thinking.
    Universally maddening.
    Oh yeah, and universally completely f$cking stupid.
  19. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

    Denialists always scream about their money. It's just selfishness as far as I'm concerned.
  20. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

    adults attempting to psychologically abuse Greta the climate activist

    i find that quite interesting

    clearly shows how many willing and bold faced child abusers there are


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    trying to be the ring leader
    with his dog whistle twitter post to his cyber terrorist supporters

    melenoma turnip & her anti bullying campaign seems to have come un stuck for the fraud it is.

    i can picture them both sitting by the fire laughing and mocking people in the charity while they read their letters about being bullied.

    what happened to all the charity money ?
    i spent it on a turnip
    but i had to haggle
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  21. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

    there is a subversive class group of people who gather like a troll club and target children and adults
    i have seen them before
    i have been a member on several web sites where several of such groups gather and communicate
    bully and harass and victimize people.

    their swan song attacks are quite obvious to me after observing them for several years.

    they are stuck in the mentality of the school yard bully schizophrenic
    they usualy have 1 or 2 small children and they associate with narcissist sociopathic men
    they are gender stereo typing as a form of self validation

    in the usa they are a fairly common species
    no surprises really

    imagine pauline hanson having an apprentice who is looking for a national front boyfriend(or a racist bully father figure to replace him) after being dumped by the father of her kids.
    then imagine the type of men who psychologically align themselves with them to feed off the victimization process of other people that group attacks to feed their own ego & stereo types & hatred validation processes.

    they think they are hiding behind placard type comments pretending to be reasonable people as they victimise and predate upon people who dont fit their stereo types or who they feel challenged by.

    thier children are probably teenage mass shooter types

    they will watch on as their children run into the road then try and attack the driver of the car who swerves to miss them blaming the driver
    watch on as their kids attack and beat each other up and call it natural selection etc...
    Last edited: Sep 26, 2019
  22. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

    anti bull turnip club have christmass lols reading victims storys

    they seem like really honest trustworthy people
  23. Benson Registered Senior Member

    Man made climate change is the conspiracy.

    The earth goes through a natural climate change process, always has, always will. The man made part is, man has contributed to the climate change by simply speeding up the inevitable.

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