Are angels natural or supernatural?

Discussion in 'Religion' started by Jan Ardena, Jan 5, 2017.

  1. Jan Ardena Valued Senior Member

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    Why?
    Because, they can fly?
    Move at tremendous speeds perhaps?
    Because they live longer than a hundred years?
    Please explain what would make an angel supernatural?

    Oh! That's okay. Let's make fun of his beliefs, seeing as he can take it on the chin.

    Pathetic.

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  3. Ophiolite Valued Senior Member

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    God.

    Edit: But perhaps you don't believe that God can perform supernatural acts or create supernatural entities. That would be an interesting turn.
     
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  5. Jan Ardena Valued Senior Member

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    I don't see how it would be.

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  7. Ophiolite Valued Senior Member

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    I have grown accustomed to your difficulty in seeing the obvious.
     
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  8. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    They are not subject to natural (i.e. science based) laws. That makes them supernatural. Gods, ghosts, angels, demons, leprechauns, evil spirits etc are examples of supernatural entities.
     
  9. Michael 345 Registered Senior Member

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    Explain what part of

    P S Do I want to engage in a discussion about impossible mythical beings?

    No.

    Seriously no.

    don't you understand.

    Also what part of

    Billy seems to understand what is not a joke to him may very well be a joke to others. I think Billy gets it. Hi Billy.

    do you have a problem with?

    That's a rhetorical question.

    Please please please I beg you from the bottom of my cruel cold black wicked disease ridden pox covered, but can take a joke, heart do not reply.

    Do I want to keep going on either of the above?

    Dear god in heaven, have mercy on my sinful soul, no.

    Seriously I am on my knees, wringing my hands in the hope you listen to my prayers that no response is forthcoming.

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  10. Jan Ardena Valued Senior Member

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    Why wouldn't angels be subject to natural laws?

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  11. Michael 345 Registered Senior Member

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    Just saw, you know who, reply to this post of yours.

    Have you stopped banging your head against a brick wall yet?

    You have my sympathy.

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  12. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    They seem to be able to appear and disappear at will. They reportedly fly without assistance.

    This doesn't sound in accordance with natural laws to me. But perhaps you can account for these behaviours.
     
  13. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Well, they're sometimes invisible, they can fly, they can shine 'with the Glory of the Lord' and they apparently get audiences with God. Sounds like they're not really following natural laws.
     
  14. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    Some folk see the supernatural as natural so an angel flying is natural.
    Alex
     
  15. Michael 345 Registered Senior Member

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    ???? Alex where are you.

    Send me a mind message if someone has taken over your body.

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  16. Jan Ardena Valued Senior Member

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    Is ''shining'', invisibility, or flying, not a part of the natural laws?

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    As there have been humans who claim to have had some kind of a personal response from God, is it unatural for other beings to have had such an experience?

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  17. Jan Ardena Valued Senior Member

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    Most descriptions of angels depict them as having wings, so I doubt they have 'no assistance'
    What we regard as them disappearing could be down to the speed of their movements, an ability to alter their vibrational frequency, or a technological ability to cloak themselves. Who knows? But it certainly doesn't mean their described abilities do, or can not correspond with the natural laws.

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  18. Jan Ardena Valued Senior Member

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    I don't understand the point of your question.

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  19. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    I am not the some folk I mention.
    What I mean is that someone like Jan may consider an angel to be natural whereas I consider an angel firstly to be made up but secondly to be relating to the supernatural.

    Alex
     
  20. Michael 345 Registered Senior Member

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    Ah glad you're safe.

    You just missed out two words

    Some folk see the supernatural as natural so an angel flying is natural to them.

    Humpty Dumpty smiles
    Poe always does

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  21. Jan Ardena Valued Senior Member

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    What are the characteristics that render an angel supernatural?

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  22. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    They don't have a reflection in a mirror and won't appear in front of Muggles.
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  23. Michael 345 Registered Senior Member

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    Have you seen one looking at a mirror trying to work out what it is?

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