Are lotto's rigged ?

Discussion in 'Conspiracies' started by Mark Turner, Aug 11, 2019.

  1. Mark Turner Banned Banned

    What do you think ?
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  3. origin Heading towards oblivion Valued Senior Member

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  5. Mark Turner Banned Banned

    They seem very difficult to win . I appreciate that some lotteries are definitely not rigged , however what about some of the smaller lotteries that are online ?
    Are these smaller lotteries also monitored by a gaming commission ?
    I'm curious about the standards of practice from online companies promoting gambling , I've seen some marvelously odd things myself .
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  7. HawkI Registered Senior Member

    You may not know this but, English Hypnotist extraordinaire Daren Brown, proved that, if you get a team of people to work together on lottery numbers for a long time and none of them are greedy, they get close to the winning numbers.

    I do not believe the lottery is rigged, if it was rigged then this method would not work.
  8. andy1033 Truth Seeker Valued Senior Member

    Do not care, as i never play it.

    I will always be amazed how badly people want to win such things, and teh elites must laugh about how easily to manipulate you all.

    Although i never play the lottery or have any interest in it.

    Nothing to do with money and humans is corruption free. Nothing.
    Where ever there is money and humans, there is corruption, so the odds are that the lottery would be fixed in some way, as humans always are corrupt around money, and especially gambling.

    So thats my answer, although i have no interest in the lottery and never play it.

    Those that do, are asking for a nightmare in there life, that they have no idea off, if they actually did win.
  9. Mark Turner Banned Banned

    I can't see how winning the lottery would be a nightmare , a person could do so many heavenly things with a win. Its not as if you are selling your soul to the devil by playing .
  10. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

    I think lotteries should be the only means of taxation. It would save me a lot of money.
  11. billvon Valued Senior Member

    That's by design.
  12. Mark Turner Banned Banned

    Well we all know that in any finite set of numbers the probability of any individual component being randomly drawn is

    P= 1/t

    However , a specific sequence of an allotted amount of variables is almost impossible to time and predict the correct sequency .

    Hence the term luck . I've done some lottery experiments generally predicting at least one variable 1/t which is simple data analysis of prior results .
  13. Sarkus Hippomonstrosesquippedalo phobe Valued Senior Member

    Derren Brown (assuming that is who you meant, as I have never heard of Daren Brown) did no such thing. He is a magician who specialises in body language and mentalism, but he is very much a magician. His lottery trick was just that... a trick. How it was done is something only he and a few others might ever know, but it was a trick. Maybe he used split screen technology, or something else, but don’t fool yourself into thinking it was anything other than a very good trick.
    I think to rig the lottery would take some doing. I wouldn’t be surprised if there is some analysis of all the balls where some highly anomalous outcome would be detected, so that would possibly reduce the risk of long-term rigging (e.g. get wealthy from large number of small wins). It’s also a matter of how many people would need to be involved in the rigging of it, and for how long it can be kept secret once it’s done.
    No offence but prior results have no bearing on future performance. To think otherwise is to think that because a coin toss landed Heads 10 times in a row that it is now more likely to land on Tails.
    If you think you have managed to somehow beat the system, please set out the details of your tests, your results, and let’s see if you’ve actually managed anything but been a bit lucky?
  14. Mark Turner Banned Banned

    Based on P=1/t of a finite set of variables , in a duration of time each and every variable will make an appearance . In using data analysis of previous results I am able to isolate the variables that haven't appeared for the most amount of time. In simple explanation the longer the period a variable hasn't been drawn , the more hot that number becomes because 1/t dictates this . I also use a variation of techniques to cut the odds down using the same formula 1/t and additional formula I'll keep a secret .
    It isn't what you'd call a perfect system but I have had some results and small wins but nothing decisive as yet . I keep adjusting my formula to try and improve it but it is unlikely I'll ever beat randomness . It is fun though trying to create a winning formula , I get a buzz off the thinking. However this week my partner picked the numbers , see if her lucks better than mine. She's gone for the anything will do approach , fingers crossed but I won't hold my breathe .
  15. Sarkus Hippomonstrosesquippedalo phobe Valued Senior Member

    Classic case of the Monte Carlo fallacy, I’m afraid.
    The only number of times one can make such an assessment would be after an infinite number. And then, if some numbers have not appeared as many as others, the machine or device can be deemed to be unfair, or biased.
    It is not only not what I’d call a perfect system but it is in fact the same as any and every system that tries to predict the outcome of a fair lottery: it is no better than random guessing of numbers. That you have won, possibly more than the odds would suggest you should have, is simply down to coincidence. Luck, if you will. Not statistically unlikely when viewed at the meta level of everyone playing: some will have great luck... there are after all people who win the jackpot.
    You may do in the short term, but that would not be statistically significant. You may even win the top prize using the method, but you are as mathematically as likely to do so as if you had used any other method, or randomness, or chosen the previous game’s winning numbers etc.
    Spoiler alert: there is no winning formula!

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    . Seriously, there isn’t. There is simply choosing, however you want to, the numbers, and then the machine picking the winning numbers. Every person that plays, irrespective of the method they used in deciding their own numbers, has the same probability of winning.
    Of course, every winner might try to claim that they dreamt the numbers the night before, or that it is linked to birthdays, or ages, or house numbers, etc. But it is no more reliable than picking 1, 2, 3, 4, etc.
    Well, at least you’re admitting here that yours is still luck!

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    Imagine if your method really was the formula, that the lottery device would favour numbers that hadn’t been picked for a while. Wouldn’t that suggest that the device has a memory? And that it is able to somehow work against the randomness inherent within its makeup, go against its own “fair” nature?

    I’m all for playing the lottery if you can afford it (but it tends to be a tax on the poor) but luck is luck is luck if you win, not because there was some secret formula for picking the numbers.

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  16. Mark Turner Banned Banned

    I understand that respectively !

    It is still fun though to try and create formulas , maybe that is because I'm science minded and I think we'd all love that one scientific breakthrough using measurement to create such a great thing like pi , Nobel prize seeking

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  17. Mark Turner Banned Banned

    I think I might change my mind and assume rigged .
  18. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

    I don't think that formula of your means anything. Please explain it for me. Thanks.

    What are these variables you mention?

    What data are you using, exactly?

    How much money have you won using your formula and data analysis, so far?

    So your variables are the same as numbers, are they? Why don't you just say "number", then?

    So, you're claiming you have a miracle formula, but you refuse to give any details about it. Correct?

    Wait a minute. A moment ago you were saying you had a foolproof method to "beat randomness". Now you're saying you can't. So which is it?

    It can be hard to keep track of lies, I understand.

    So have you created one, or haven't you? One minute you say you have, the next you say you haven't. Which is it?

    So your formula is based on "luck" now, is it?

    Why are you wasting everybody's time?

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