Are there any Online Bullies on SciForums?

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  1. dumbest man on earth Real Eyes Realize Real Lies Valued Senior Member

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    Wegs, you are going to have to fully read more of paddoboys Posts.
    That is the only way that you will be able to fully understand exactly how detrimental to life in the Universe, or indeed the continued existence of The Universe itself, that my presence on this Forum is.
     
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  3. dumbest man on earth Real Eyes Realize Real Lies Valued Senior Member

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    Ad-Hominem?
     
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    You have missed plenty of the exchanges of dmoe and myself over many years, and the childishness and stupidity reflected in his posts as the post from James also reflects. Ask him about a poster called et pet over at SFN.

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    Sorry, not an ad hom. Merely a criticism.

    To be an ad hom, it would have to be 'you're wrong because you are a creep'.
     
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  9. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Good point! That is obviously half the problem....Some self rightious people believe they should be allowed to get away with saying and claiming anything they like, and a good critical post is often mistaken for the usual silly adhom claim.
     
  10. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    And yet you respond.
     
  11. dumbest man on earth Real Eyes Realize Real Lies Valued Senior Member

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    You keep mentioning SFN, paddoboy
    What is "SFN"?
    And what "about a poster called et pet over at SFN" ?
    And how is it relevent to this Thread?
     
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  13. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    Y'know, even "..." is a response.
     
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    - https://literarydevices.net/ad-hominem/
    " Definition of Ad Hominem
    Ad hominem is a Latin word that means “against the man.” As the name suggests, it is a literary term that involves commenting on or against an opponent, to undermine him instead of his arguments."

    - https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ad hominem
    " Definition of ad hominem
    1: appealing to feelings or prejudices rather than intellect
    2: marked by or being an attack on an opponent's character rather than by an answer to the contentions made "

    - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
    " Ad hominem (Latin for 'to the person'), short for argumentum ad hominem, is a term that is applied to several different types of arguments, most of which are fallacious. Typically it refers to a fallacious argumentative strategy whereby genuine discussion of the topic at hand is avoided by instead attacking the character, motive, or other attribute of the person making the argument, or persons associated with the argument, rather than attacking the substance of the argument itself. "

    - https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ad_hominem
    " ad hominem (plural ad hominems)
    1. A fallacious objection to an argument or factual claim by appealing to a characteristic or belief of the person making the argument or claim, rather than by addressing the substance of the argument or producing evidence against the claim; an attempt to argue against an opponent's idea by discrediting the opponent himself or herself.
    2. A personal attack.

    - https://www.thefreedictionary.com/ad hominem
    " ad hominem
    1. Attacking a person's character or motivations rather than a position or argument: The candidates agreed to focus on the issues rather than making ad hominem attacks against each other.
    2. Appealing to the emotions rather than to logic or reason. "
     
  15. dumbest man on earth Real Eyes Realize Real Lies Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, sideshowbob, "..." is a response.
    It is a response that is given to signify that something was NOT IGNORED.
    It means that a missive was carefully and fully read.
    It has been completely understood.
    After all due consideration, it has been determined that it does NOT merit any response, so the "..." simply means :
    Read - Understood - Nothing worth responding to!
     
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    Ít's a science forum et p...er dmoe.
    The poster over at SFN is/was a real weirdo bully that operates here under another handle....his childish inane post methodology is unmistakable!

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    He was a potential bully there until corralled and hog tied, and is still a raving weirdo here....

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    So, what does this "poster over at SFN is/was a real weirdo bully that operates here under another handle" have to do with this Thread?
    Are you claiming that you are the "poster over at SFN is/was a real weirdo bully that operates here under another handle" ?
     
  18. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Yes that's it dmoe, just like the following adhom by yourself.
    In reply to a legitimate scenario put by me......
     
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    Indeed. Simply a criticism isn't sufficient.

    An ad hom is an attempt to undermine the arguer, rather than the argument. The requirement being that there is an argument in the first place.
    The 'creepy' comment wasn't in response to any argument.


    But I don't understand the purpose of this thread, so Imma step back.
     
  21. dumbest man on earth Real Eyes Realize Real Lies Valued Senior Member

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    - from the Opening Post of "Are there any Online Bullies on SciForums?" :
    The Site/Page/Link : https://chataboutyou.com/online-forum-bully , was an interesting read for me and I invite other SciForum Members to Read the Linked content and offer their opinions on the views expressed by Aya Hajime.

    And as a related question, do any Members see any evidence of "Online Bullies" here at SciForums?
     
  22. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Yes....
    Hence my reasonable comment, "People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones/rocks/pebbles"
     
  23. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Some other facts worth considering. We often hear trolls, religious fanatics, anti science nuts using the argument against facts such as "an appeal to authority." As in the ad hominem accusation, they are only valid in some situations. eg: I remember a fool over at SFN pulling me up when I was making some comment about Voyager having left the solar system, based on the fact it was now outside the Sun's heliosphere and the influence of the solar wind called the heliosheath. This turkey whose handle was et pet, then arrogantly interrupted claiming that this was wrong and that the solar system was defined by the effects of the Sun's gravity.

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    See where this is going?....Gravity of course extends to infinity, falling off as per the inverse square of distance. The same applies of course to the photons emmitted by the Sun, which have no boundary and of course do not get weaker. [not taking into account the absorption factor etc]
    I obviously used a "correct"authoritive confirmation of this which is valid and welcome. The appeal to authority of course applies to for example, asking a doctor what the best cut of beef is.
    An adhominem can be viewed the same way. Certainly attacking the person should not be the goal, [and yes, I have used ad hominems, sometimes unnecessarily so] but just as certainly if a person arguing for say little or no gun laws, as in the USA, or if some ratbag started singing the praises of Adolf Hitler, then all the ad hominems one can muster are equally as valid as proper authority appeal. In other words, people pushing and claiming nonsense continually, without links or references, are open for attack. I believe I can safely use Fat Freddy as an example.
     
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