Agree with the above and much of what you say elsewhere. And yes, I have and do go out to ridicule him and as a extreme effort, also whoever he refers to as God. But [as I believe I said to you elsewhere] I also do not necessarilly go out of my way to ridicule religion and/or any creator in general, rather I am just inclined to ridicule those that go out of there way to ridicule science. I praised Toroko a few weeks ago for being honest and admitting that it is only faith. My respect for him is immense, not because it reflects badly on creationism and God, and not because it seemingly puts science in a victorious position, but simply because it is the truth. It can never be a victory for science, until science is able to explain reasonably the details of how and why the BB evolved, and how and why Abiogenesis took hold on at least one planet among many trillions. While that in itself does not affect the deservedly high standard of science, on forums such as this, open to all and sundry, every Tom, Dick, Harry, Jan and even the odd Tiassa and paddoboy, I believe that when he lies, and/or redefines words, he needs to be brought to account for it. OK, he near exclusively posts in the religious forum...good, that is a feather in his cap, still the overall constitution of the forum, is that of the scientific methodology. Worth noting too Tiassa, my interactions with Jan, have only been over the last few months...I pretty sure I have not crossed swords with him to any great degree before that. And personally due to past issues, I don't need to, appear to just stick with the forum status quo. I say what I believe and what I think...that generally aligns with mainstream scientific thinking, but certainly can depart from the forum status quo on political, social and human issues and subjects. We had two other mods from the past, both who I respected a lot...Kittamaru and Trippy. Do we need more mods? Perhaps. Who would I pick? Janus probably, for one...maybe wegs for another. Reasons? Both seem honest in their general approaches, and while wegs may not be that cosmologically gifted, Janus most certainly is. Anyway enough of my rant.