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  1. EmptyForceOfChi Banned Banned

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    Being temp banned this time was interestingly different, before I would just not read the forums and stay away from it while banned, this time however I have been checking in to have a read maybe 3-4 times per week as an “observer”.
    Not being able to participate was very beneficial for me, I got to watch you all like little ants in a glass farm; you were my test subjects or “Lab Rats” in other words. Honestly speaking you guys were always my test subjects but I got to prod and intervene whereas this time I simply played the role of non-interactive observer. Hands on hands off, or wax on wax off as Mr Myogi Sensei might say to Daniel-kun.
    This thread will have the focus point of “Classic improvement” where I will be asking readers to take a long hard look at themselves (Probably won’t happen though but this only proves my point) I have noticed with rough estimation 0.01% Classic improvement from Sci-forums members. Now this is not saying as individuals you each show 0.01% improvement some of you show less than that, I mean as an overall whole Sci-forums as a collective shows this % of classic improvement, be it improvement in character, improvement in social conduct or improvement regarding ability to “change” some of you can’t even admit simply “I was wrong” then you will try to backpedal and weasel your way out of being wrong for 57 posts and remove focus from your failure by targeting minor errors in your “Opponent” and yes I used the word “Opponent” with a reason because most of you are not in civil debate or discussion you are verbally fighting with each other and clashing like school girls.
    I have come to the conclusion that hardly any of you want to actually learn anything, you show no signs of personal development and you basically come to the forums to push personal agendas with little regard to anyone’s response. I have gone through my own posting history and can see a classic improvement and personal development by just reading Past Chi’s posts, I have been wrong many times in the past I have also learned from mistakes with the genuine desire to better myself and seek knowledge.
    Upon reading many of your post histories (Oh yes I delved deep into your past posts for many hours) I have seen dismal results coupled with much rudeness and anti-social behaviour also immense trolling to boot.
    Some of you on the other hand have shown small signs of classic improvement and I salute you for your honesty and desire to seek knowledge in this world. However these rare individuals are few and far between and usually from my observations have been “Agnostics” and also “Muslims”.
    The worst behaviour I have witnessed is from “Christian evangelicals” and “Militant Atheists” these 2 groups have been painful to observe and I could not bear delving into their post histories for long periods without taking a break or a “breather”.
    Upon concluding these things it is plain to see that most of you will most likely never change without some form of divine intervention or miracle, coming on Sci-forums seems to be a means for “Venting” which in turn causes mischief and division amongst the posters, I have divided you all up into groups upon meeting certain criteria.
    When these type of people engage in a discussion it is anything but polite, teeming with sarcasm and scoffing with a high dosage of superiority mocking those who do not subscribe to their personal views. I have seen some debates which are fitting only for the YouTube comments section and it is making Sci-forums seem like a joke compared to some other well-known science forums which adhere to a much more professional etiquette.

    Basically this forum is a safe haven for trolls and anti-social “Closet militants” Who get to pat each other on the back when scoffing at the feeble minded laymen, when in actuality hardly any of you are real scholars, We do have a few gems though and real men of science amongst the “Keyboard warriors” and “Google scholars”.
    Anybody can Google search something and then act like they are some form of genius it isn’t hard to pull off with the internet at hand. I wonder how well some of you would fair in a real live debate without the internet to help you, without your sources and unlimited access to other individuals hard earned research. *Ponders*
    Ask yourself this, “Do I come here to actually try and learn anything” or “Do I actually come here to teach something” or “Do I actualy come here to benefit others in some way shape or form” maybe the real reason many of you come here is “Because you want to argue about something”.
    Many threads are Hijacked and if it is hijacked by somebody who is of an Atheist mentality the mods rarely intervene, Thread Hijacking is actually against forum policy and rules but is rarely ever enforced if it fits an atheist agenda.
    Finally I would like to request the Religion Sub-Forum be closed down all together, it is a joke no real debates last long there and as a frequent poster in the religion forum it is plain to see the Mods don’t really want any religious debates because they call preaching. If you don’t want preaching then don’t provide religious people a platform, leave the comparative religion forums open for scientific comparisons. Either shut down the religion forum completely or don’t try to tell religious people what they can and cannot say regarding their own religion. Claiming to be a science forum and then opening a “Religion” sub forum is asking for trouble, in reality it is a “Bash religion with science sub-forum”, A place where basement dwelling militant atheists get to lord over the believers.
    PS I have activated my anti-Troll shields so don’t expect to be able to troll me in future it won’t work, this is another example of my personal development I have noted down all the trolls with Atheist agenda and all of you will be ignored by me unless you start asking non-stupid questions that you already have the answer too and will therefore by your troll nature be unwilling to change regardless of what I might respond with.
    Peace.
     
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  3. SciWriter Valued Senior Member

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    How is my report card?
     
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  5. EmptyForceOfChi Banned Banned

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    Lol, I left out any direct personal comments for a good reason, well infact for a few seperate "Good reasons", Slandering an individual is something I am trying to avoid though in short.

    I do not wish to point fingers, everyone will know if im talking to them or not, I don't wish to expose any individual here, this is a group observation.
    Peace.

    Edit- Just so you know you ranked in as borderline agnostic but approaching atheist mentality, be carefull with what you choose to be your direction from this point.
     
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  7. spidergoat Liddle' Dick Tater Valued Senior Member

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    *Gasp*, I've been intellectually raped, right in my post history. You beast!
     
  8. SciWriter Valued Senior Member

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    OK.

    I hope my irrefutable disproofs of God and my irrefutable proofs of existence coming from nothing did not stand against me to hold up my progress.

    My teaching poems probably saved me from flunking and having to repeat a grade.
     
  9. EmptyForceOfChi Banned Banned

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    Lol, you should try it out, reading somebodies post history can prove very informative as to what their agenda is.

    peace.
     
  10. EmptyForceOfChi Banned Banned

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    That was a close one I almost jumped into the debate about how you cannot disprove god but luckily my anti-troll shield barrier saved me.

    Your poems are good you should send them off to a publisher. but editor first to remove the sterile nature of them.

    peace.
     
  11. SciWriter Valued Senior Member

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    God, astrology, and alchemy yet live on display in the Museum of Myth and Pseudosceintific History, having gone the way of the Dodo bird, which at least was real.
     
  12. EmptyForceOfChi Banned Banned

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    Did you not learn anything from what I said in the OP?

    peace.
     
  13. SciWriter Valued Senior Member

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    Praise be to Allah!
     
  14. EmptyForceOfChi Banned Banned

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    Ameen, Alhamdullilah.
     
  15. quinnsong Valued Senior Member

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    Glad your back Chi, please stay a while!
     
  16. EmptyForceOfChi Banned Banned

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    Insh'allah I will.

    peace be with you.
     
  17. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    It's funny how you always seem to manage to miss the "point" of a temp ban.
    And here you are again, just as blind, arrogant and prone to blaming others (and projecting) as you always were.
     
  18. EmptyForceOfChi Banned Banned

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    Interesting, wish to elaborate?
     
  19. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Why not?
    Arrogance.

    Did you read through your own posts and take a "long, hard look" at yourself?

    Estimate based on...?
    You're assigning numbers willy-nilly as if they have some validity. Please show how you arrived at this figure, otherwise it's a spurious attempt at being "scientific" with no basis.

    Projection and generalisation.

    Riiight.

    Did you miss all of the occasions where your reply has essentially been "There's no point in continuing this because you're not prepared to see the truth"?

    And once again you misuse the term debate. You, for instance, haven't engaged in a single debate since you arrived.

    Then you haven't actually read many posts have you? The Wiki wonders generally get shot down in short order.

    "Debate" again

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    Ah yes. You're here to "teach" aren't you? And failing miserably because you preach instead.

    Generalisation and assumption again. "Atheist agenda"?

    Why don't you just stop posting there? I don't like it so no-one should have access to it is at least slightly petulant, no?

    "Debate" again. And no, the mods have nothing against "debates". But they do have something against preaching. If you can't "debate" without having to resort to preaching then maybe you should try a different approach.

    You're right. I wonder if the mods were expecting a minimum level of comprehension of the rules and the dictionary when they opened the sub-forum. What do you think?

    And of course it's you who gets to define "non-stupid"...

    And another projection/ assumption.
     
  20. EmptyForceOfChi Banned Banned

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    Did you not read the part where I said "Troll Shields Activate"
     
  21. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Yes. And your post is perfect example of my point:
    Especially as the post that you quoted (in its entirety for some reason) was a direct reply to your question:

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    Same old clueless Chi.
     
  22. EmptyForceOfChi Banned Banned

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    You had to quote yourself to bulk up the rebuttle nice one a true troll legend.
     
  23. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Says the guy who quotes entire posts without actually responding to the content.
    I was merely reinforcing the point. Which you seem to have missed (or ignored) as usual.
     

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