Atheists and the soul

Discussion in 'Religion' started by DaveC426913, Sep 11, 2014.

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Do you sign?

  1. Yes

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    33.3%
  2. No.

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    66.7%
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  1. Photizo Ambassador/Envoy Valued Senior Member

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    All true. As he says; "...ye will not come to me, that ye might have life."
     
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  3. scorpius a realist Valued Senior Member

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    Souls don't exist so theres nothing to sign away,,however lets consider the possibility there is
    Id need to know way more before signing anything,,why would the dude need my soul? can one get another soul later?
    What about two soul people can they sell one and keep the other?
    what if you sign get lots of money and next day you die....
    Moral of the story is be damn careful what you wish for!
     
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  5. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Except you aren't silent, are you? Like at least a dozen other people, you feel it's important to explain your viewpoint.

    Demonstrably false.

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    You've spent quite a bit of time composing a post, so it's certainly not true that you find this discussion nonsense or trivial. So, why did you not vote? It costs you nothing.

    What I'm examining here, is the suspicion that a lot of people have strong convictions as long as those convictions are not put to a test. The moment they are asked to put their money where their mouth is, even symbolically, you often find out that they rationalize a million reasons why they suddenly don't happen to have any money.

    There are exactly three outcomes in this thread:
    1. those who sign and rationalize why
    2. those who do not sign and rationalize why
    3. those who do not participate at all and have no need to explain

    Like it or not, you fall into category 2.
     
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  7. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

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    So Dave... which catigory do you put my response.???
     
  8. Photizo Ambassador/Envoy Valued Senior Member

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    There is a devil.

    He already has your soul--and all of humanity who remain outside of Christ. Christ is the only safe haven from the coming destruction. Do you choose Christ or or not? There is no waffling according to Him: "Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters."
     
  9. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

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    No i dont... so.???
     
  10. Photizo Ambassador/Envoy Valued Senior Member

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    So, you will be a participant in the zombie apocalypse.
     
  11. Aqueous Id flat Earth skeptic Valued Senior Member

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    Play God much? How's that working for you so far?
     
  12. Aqueous Id flat Earth skeptic Valued Senior Member

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    What difference does it make? Once anyone posits a definition of God they are either inventing God on the spot or restating a prior invention. In any case it's fiction.
     
  13. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Oops.
    Looks like it's already here...
     
  14. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

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    What is the purpose of that.???
     
  15. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Well, you said you voted to sign. Is there any confusion about which category you fall in?
     
  16. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Correct.

    It is taken for granted that any theists will, of course, not sign, and that their reasons are obvious.

    If I could edit this poll, I would change the options to:

    I am an atheist, and I would sign.
    I am an atheist, but I would not sign.

    Theists who vote and/or respond, do so at the cost of confusing the issue and the numbers, since this issue is challenging the convictions of atheists. It does not challenge the convictions of theists at all.
     
  17. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

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  18. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

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    So you consider my response to be a rationalization of why i voted the way i did.???
     
  19. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    :audible blink:

    Of course.

    You voted. You explained your rationale for voting that way.
     
  20. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

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    Seems like "for the money" was perty much a givin.!!!

    How about a 4th catigory for you:::

    4. Those who waffle due to bein superstitious.???
     
  21. Photizo Ambassador/Envoy Valued Senior Member

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    It's working out pretty good:

    "And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus, in order that in the coming ages he might show the incomparable riches of his grace, expressed in his kindness to us in Christ Jesus...When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory."

    See you then...
     
  22. Trooper Secular Sanity Valued Senior Member

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    For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?


    Yep, a theist would never accept the whole world in exchange for their soul, but they would sacrifice the whole world to gain it. They’d destroy the tree of life for immortality, the love of life for the love of God.


    He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal.


    How twisted is that?
     
  23. Photizo Ambassador/Envoy Valued Senior Member

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    Consignment of the living dead to their eternal state. (see Rev. 20)
     
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