Athiesm, Punishment and Killing

All ethical issues come to bear due to value systems.

Even though many atheists on this site seem to assure us that a godless society would be composed of persons patting each other on the back for their latest advances in the exploration of pluto, the cure for cancer, etc, it should be obvious to anyone who comes within ten feet of a newspaper headline that this is not the case.

 

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'Man detonates bomb, killing 100, because he doesn't believe in gods'.

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Western armies bomb Baghdad. ( A million dead, millions displaced)

Dutch troops in Afghanistan (ditto)

Chinese shoot 100 Buddhists (in process)

Structural adjustment policy kills 20,000 children per day

"Aid" leads to more farmer suicides in Third World.

 

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note the implication

"man does not detonate bomb, not killing 100, because he doesn't believe in gods"

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What's your vote S.A.M.?

 

Do you even need to ask?

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As a Muslim, I am naturally a supporter of all kinds of mass murders suicides terorrist activities etc.

 

I agree with lightgigantic's general point. Remove religion/gods and people would simply proclaim another reason to kill each other. Most so-called religous conflicts, after all, have less to do with religion and more to with socioeconomic factors. Atheism wouldn't directly lead to world peace or anything of that sort.

 

And your vote once you set aside your sarcasm?

 

The only implication is that you wont really find lack of belief or disbelief in gods as the motivator for bad shit. "I don't believe in Thor so I will kill people".

The notion is idiotic at best.

What is most pertinent to point out is that people can do bad shit regardless - Do note however that belief in gods most certainly is a motivator for slaughter, and so removal of it, while it will not stop people doing bad shit, is certainly a step in the right direction.

 

hence my comment

Even though many atheists on this site seem to assure us that a godless society would be composed of persons patting each other on the back for their latest advances in the exploration of pluto, the cure for cancer, etc, it should be obvious to anyone who comes within ten feet of a newspaper headline that this is not the case.

:shrug:

 

These are all atheists ? In your mind does 'western' equal 'atheist' ??

 

Hence my question.

Of course, what "godless society" are you referring to?

 

I guess you would have to ask the people making the assurances and follow it up (with the scientific method of course) to draw your conclusions

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Fine. Names?

 

Not a motivator in isolation. Most of the time the belief in gods is tied to something else (oppression, control of land, desire to expand territory, etc.) that leads to the slaughter. If you removed that something else, chances are high you'd remove the slaughter. Just remove the religion however, and it's doubtful you'd achieve the same results.

 

Just be careful not to get killed trying.

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So again, why killing is BAD? Killing the WRONG people is bad. Pretty much ALL religions AGREED with that rule, so let's stop being pussies and pretend otherwise...

 

Are they fighting/starving/killing/bankrupting for religious reasons?

 

why so uptight?
Its not like we would be doing anything bad, is it?

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lol whats your point ? ..if you have any.

 

so who are the right people to be killed, and what makes you so sure you are not one of them?