Athiests please help!!!

Discussion in 'Religion Archives' started by armyboyjay, Mar 9, 2002.

  1. 42! Registered Member

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    Contrary to some posts here, Atheism is not just another religious belief or faith. It is the absense of such beliefs. As the name implies, "a-theism" is the opposite of "theism." Atheism requires no beliefs, there is no church, no services to attend, no dogma or superstition, and we do not ask for your money.

    Agnostics cowardly hedge their bets...

    : P
     
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  3. killslay Registered Member

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    i take the AJ Ayer approach, i don't question it, i'll find out when i die
     
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  5. Sarkus Hippomonstrosesquippedalo phobe Valued Senior Member

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    Jan Ardena, your entire arguments stem from a logical fallacy of an appeal to authority.
    You spend most of your threads saying "Well, Enstein / Newton said this, and they're scientists, so it must be okay because they follow the scientific method and have reached this conclusion."

    It's a classic "Appeal to Authority" fallacy.

    Don't quote someone else and then say "There, that is evidence enough."
    Even if someone is an expert in the field, a quote is not evidence - it is merely noteworthy at best.
     
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  7. Crunchy Cat F-in' *meow* baby!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Everyone has pointed out some great flaws with this story already and
    I just wanted to add one more observation. Natural process creates more
    than people do. Process creates lakes, canyons, snow, rain, magma, and the
    list goes on and on. That apple that left Newton a lump was created by
    natural process and fell on his head because of natural process.
     
  8. scorpius a realist Valued Senior Member

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    Newton like all theists,
    assumed that like some man made object designed/created by humans,
    our universe must also have a designer.

    problem is when you "assume" without having all the knowledge you'll most likely made an ass of u and...me

    we can see the designer builder of man made things

    and we can see natural forces that influence everything in the universe,

    what we dont see is gods spirits and anything supernatural,and if it existed it would be part of nature anyway.

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    we also know matter cant be destroyed or created only changed so it probably always existed,which means you cant create something from nothing which means god is not needed..and universe probably always was

    my guess is the only reason people wish for god to exist is to live forever in their heaven...thats why all the apologetics and justifications for his existence
     
  9. yank God Registered Senior Member

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    first things first...
    we were taught this in school...
    "matter can neither be created nor be destroyed...
    it can only be converted from one form to another"
     

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