Ban Proud Muslim?

Discussion in 'SF Open Government' started by Rappaccini, May 17, 2004.

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Ban Proud Muslim?

Poll closed May 31, 2004.
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  2. No

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  1. Shmoo The CzarnaChapka Registered Senior Member

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    John cracks me up.
    CounslerCoffee's behaviour is fairly disconcerting considering his position on these forums.
     
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  3. Bells Staff Member

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    A tad harsh. You're making yourself sound as though you're one of the US soldiers working in the prisons in Iraq.


    Excuse me? Both sides to this argument have a similar phenomenon, where some members have probably signed in with different names to vote, or they've gotten their friends and family to join to vote. But I'm sure Porf can find out who signed in with different names. So before you start throwing stones at the other side, remember that the NO vote also has some dubious votes.

    You insult the dead memories of millions of people by calling their pain and death a hoax and you're suprised that you're stopped from discussing the issue? And you ignore the warning and keep on discussing it? How would you feel if someone turned to you and told you that the plight of the Palestinians was a hoax?

    Tell me, when you start ranting, do you hear an echo in your head? Christ you're disgusting PM. Vile creature.

    And now onto John_Angry
    You are proof of why insane asylums should not allow patients to access the internet.
     
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  5. Rappaccini Redoubtable Registered Senior Member

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    I'm still alive!

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  7. Bells Staff Member

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    Well something must have scared the shit out of you out there in Jaws country... Scared you so much you turned into Wes.

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  8. Rappaccini Redoubtable Registered Senior Member

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    Oh... my... God!

    You're right!

    I'm Wes! Holy Crap!
     
  9. airavata portentous Registered Senior Member

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    PM doesn't deny the holocaust ever took place. He merely questions the accuracy of the 6 million figure. He can present completely bogus evidence and he can be delusional. SO WHAT?
     
  10. CounslerCoffee Registered Senior Member

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    airavata, the way I read it was that PM said that it's a holohoax: a vast conspiracy to make us sympathize with the Jews. He even said that he believes it never happened and that it's a holohoax.
     
  11. airavata portentous Registered Senior Member

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    Well, a few pages back he says that he's only objecting to the number of jews killed. Holocaust - holohoax; can't interfere with his phraseology can we?
     
  12. Bells Staff Member

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    It's more the fact that he doesn't deny that it happened to non-Jews, just to the Jews. Therefore by PM's reasoning, the Jews who died in the camps should not be pitied for their fate because they apparently lied. Go figure. By calling it a holohoax, he has denied the existence of the holocaust. For many here who's family may have been in the camps, it is an insult. But most importantly, his attitude is an insult to the millions who did perish.
     
  13. CounslerCoffee Registered Senior Member

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    I see what he said and that's what he said. Now, if he meant something different, he still shouldn't of said it like that. He obviously should of put words in there.
     
  14. airavata portentous Registered Senior Member

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    Bells : His attitude? His attitude can be anything he chooses it to be. Who're you to impose your will on him and control his opinion and check his output here on Sci? Granted it may not be particularly logical, but why's everyone so concerned with what PM thinks about the holocaust.
     
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    Airavata;
    I think that statement pretty much sums it up. The rest about only objecting to the numbers, well, backpedalling, bait and switch, whatever.
     
  16. airavata portentous Registered Senior Member

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    Well, this thread's been quite entertaining.
     
  17. Bells Staff Member

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    Do you not see the double standard there? I understand that PM has a problem with Jews. But to call it a holohoax? I've asked him several times how he would respond if it were Muslims and not Jews who'd been slaughtered by the Nazis and someone called it a hoax. He still has not replied, because he knows that he'd be angry if such a statement were made. He knows he'd consider it to be hateful.

    PM's attitude is that because they were Jews, therefore not as many died. He's letting his hate for the Jews cloud any rational thoughts he may have on the matter. But what he continuously fails to realise is that by calling it a holohoax, he is calling the whole holocaust a hoax. Did you even read the arguments he'd put forth in the history forum and the religious forum? There's no word in any vocabulary to describe what he's been saying.
     
  18. Shmoo The CzarnaChapka Registered Senior Member

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    PM seems to be back-pedaling on things he said in an earlier thread.
    He has refrained from acknowledging statements such as these:

    These are accusations, not questions. He is obviously not questioning how many Jews died in the Holocaust at all, because he already firmly believes Jews are deceiving the public.

    He is straight out lying about his intentions.
     
  19. CounslerCoffee Registered Senior Member

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    Airavate:

    He is a member of this community, and as a member I think we have the right to dispute the content of this website and those who reside within it. Would you support someone posting racist material? Would you support someone who posts hardcore porn? No, because you care about the content of this website and the members who reside in it. This is Porfiry's community first, but secondly it belongs to the members. We vote, we discuss, and we decide.
     
  20. Bells Staff Member

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    And I mean attitude in the sense of the way he portrays himself on here. He abuses people for questioning Islam or for criticising Islam, but then he comes out with a statement like that? That's what I mean by his attitude. He accuses everyone else of being a hater, but he is the biggest hater out of all of us. And then he tries to justify it by saying that it is his right to question the figures. Well if that's his argument, then he should have no problem with anyone questioning or denying the plight of Muslims around the world. And the way he's carried on, I can bet you that is exactly what will happen.
     
  21. Brian Foley REFUSE - RESIST Valued Senior Member

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    @Proud Muslim
    Don’t let anyone on this forum intimidate you , you have every right to express yourself they way wish . Continue to post as you do and as often as possible you are a resident of the mid-east and your input is needed here . Syria your homeland borders Israel and will possibly be Americas next target . I value your input , heres wishing Iraq will be Americas coffin .
     
  22. Proud_Muslim Shield of Islam Registered Senior Member

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    Because they were breast fed this LIE since an early age, the outrageous thing is that these HYPOCRITES dont mind discussing whether jesus existed or not, dont mind discussing whether muhmmad existed or not, but they shout HATE when you try to discuss( not even deny ), just discuss the HOLOHOAX !!

    Pathetic !!
     
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  23. Proud_Muslim Shield of Islam Registered Senior Member

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    What a bunch of lies !!

    I do confirm that Jews DID die at the hands of the nazis AS WELL AS other non jews, I DONT believe the figure is 6 million Jew, it is a JEWISH LIE, JEWISH HOAX to decieve the west and keep milking them money and compensations !!

    Hell ! Germany until this very day pays those zionist killers who are now residing on my land in Palestine and Syria ''compensations'' in forms of NUCLEAR SUBMARINES and WEAPONS to kill more of my people !! do I have sympathy for these killers ? NOOO, let them go to hell.

    Why those same jews dont pay compensations for my people for the HOLOCAUST the jews committed against my people ?? why ? why this SILENCE on the jewish crimes ? why it is ok for the jews to kill and steal our land and be forgiven because there were the victims of the HOLOHOAX ?

    ARE THE JEWS UNTOUCHABLE ? ARE THEY HOLY ? ARE THEY ABOVE CRITICISM ???

    THE ARABS AND THE MUSLIMS ARE SICK AND TIRED FROM THIS BLATANT HYPOCRISY AND EMOTIONAL MILKING OF WORLD OPINION, OUR LAND IS STOLEN BY THE SAME VICTIMS, IN FACT, MANY OF THOSE SO CALLED HOLOCAUST SURVIVORS ARE NOW RESIDING OVER MY LAND, MY HOME IN PALESTINE AND SYRIA !!!

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    Why we should pay for a crime committed by the Europeans ?

    Look and compare:

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