Becoming aware......

Discussion in 'Eastern Philosophy' started by Centaurus1, Jul 6, 2002.

  1. ripleofdeath Registered Senior Member

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    QUOTE ...from...
    Jan Ardena

    It quite simple, the male is the seed generator.

    Everything is part and parcel of God (including male & female energy), therefore He is both, but the male and female energies have different roles in order to create balance in the material world.
    God is described as "Him" because He is the creator, He, according to scripture generated the seeds which brought the cosmic manifestation into being, through contact with the unmanifested material nature (female).
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    so...
    a women becoming "aware"
    is a women choosing the path of materialism

    and

    men are godlike in nature so will always
    see women as less than them and be correct in the realisation??

    does this 'some-up' "becoming aware" as a 'christian'???

    hence the "will of man" becomes the 'will of god'

    thus... should only men raise male children, because women are incapable?
    thus women raising male children creates all the discord/evil in the world trying to tell a man how to be a man when they no nothing of such god like things.
    my mind is reeling please expand/define/opinionate/express
    more as you wish.

    peace and (then will come) love
    ps ... eastern philosophy????????

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  5. ripleofdeath Registered Senior Member

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    yo jan...
    does your awareness of "god as a christian" allow you to
    accept other beings, being aware of "other" gods?
    or do you prescibe to a doctrine of spiritual manogamy..as such?
    which you believe to be your awareness...?

    if this fundermental 'underlay' changes in your heart does it
    allow for interpretation?

    or
    do you prescide to mental illnes as a diversion of reality to be the nature of other religion/awareness?

    i find this insinuated concept (by me as a question) to be most
    sizing and compartmentalising of something in its interface to be
    not soo tangable...

    "as to conclude to ones mental awarenes in light of god as to be, rather that one would be the light of god" (riple-ism

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    thus to project god
    rather than to mingle amoungst.
    im floating close to the word "materialism"

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    yo jan
    one more thing hit me this mornin

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    QUOTE...
    A man is identified by his body, the soul which occupies the body is again neither male or female, it is spiritual. Mens and womens bodies have different roles in life, that is why there is distinction
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    SOO...
    it would seem that regardless of what the current bishops and ministers say...
    the exact meaning of such information/teaching is to state that
    homosexual "life style" is the(one of) true embodyment of evil.
    no husband/wife=no kids=no family=no schools=no community=
    NO SOCIETY...
    thus it would seem only basic following thought would be that
    ALL homosexuals are a VESSEL of TRUE evil.
    and have sought to seek companions in missery and shame by
    instigating pedophilia as a Male Hetrosexual persuit.
    and in turn (alongwith) insinuating that they are somehow a product of that...
    removing the self confidence(what is left) so they can feel like the VICTIM that is SOO fashionable in this legal arrangement called "western culture"...

    thoughts?

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  9. ripleofdeath Registered Senior Member

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    yo jan...
    sorry for jumping to the conclusion of christianity it was the first religion i noticed so "assumed it" as the "potential" fundermental.

    i understand what you mean by the act of sex!
    i think this is a very good point if it could be understood by
    mainstream science

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    we can yet but hope

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    ---
    do you prescide to mental illnes as a diversion of reality to be the nature of other religion/awareness?

    Mental illness?…………….I never have, so based on that I would say no.
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    note the words "diversion of reality"
    this is the key to the nature of the question

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    *"NOT"! do you have a mental illness.

    Quote-
    Not sure what you mean there, please rephrase it.
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    sorry ... this will require a great deal of mental effort and im not able to just jump in and re-arrange at anytime..."yet"

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    but if i think of it again at some stage i will try and translate it...as such

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    just a thought.."all"
    reality is what we do
    hence
    awarness is what we know
    thence
    what we know is what we do is what is!

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  11. ripleofdeath Registered Senior Member

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    jan...
    so do you think a person holds the key?

    or do you think maybe it is gods personal knoledge not for the
    un-initiated?

    hhhmmmm
    just a thought
    transitory...
    a determination to not be consistant in "good" values and morals...
    ???

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    thoughts?
    mainstream materialistic thought is the only realistic manifestation on the basic premis of cause and effect law of communal existance...
    imo

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    thoughts.. anybods???
    ps thus becoming aware is to understand the "nature" of the interaction of all beings!
    regardless of whether you understand the language

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    hence the reddy attachment to darwin theory... since he is dead and cant change or addapt or concisely explain it

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  13. Tyler Registered Senior Member

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    "Do you know any loving father who would deprive their children of anything he had?"

    No, I don't. But god deprives of peace, justice and good health (I'm assuming god doesn't get sick too often).
     
  14. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    How so?

    Love

    Jan Ardena.
     
  15. Tyler Registered Senior Member

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    He, if all powerful, has teh ability to hand out these things and opts not to.
     
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  17. Tyler Registered Senior Member

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    Every single religion that has ever existed has had a god that is all-powerful.
     
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    You say "a god" and i say "God."

    You said, "He, if all powerful, has the ability to hand out these things and opts not to."

    I'm asking you, why has he opted not?

    Love

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    so 'God' is the christian version of supreme diety and 'god' is what you choose to call that which is the sam under any other religion/belief system?

    Oh gGod, help me.

    Can't we use another word?
     
  20. Tyler Registered Senior Member

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    "I'm asking you, why has he opted not?"

    1) I don't believe in god
    2) You're about the closest I've seen as someone who should be in a nut house on this site and whatever your views are on god (God, Yehuah, Allah.... pick one. If you're that concerned) are entirely yours and no one elses so.
    3) If there was a god - I'm not him, so I don't know. I'm not arrogant enough to think I know every whim/intention/value of a supreme being

    So, tell me the answer oh wise one, why has an all-powerful being opted not to bestow these gifts upon man?
     
  21. A4Ever Knows where his towel is Registered Senior Member

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    First: this is not an argument, it is only insulting.

    Second: His views are quite interesting. Some of them are shared by a billion Hindus, some probably not.

    He is only asking you questions to lead you to an answer.

    Read more of his posts before judging.
     
  22. ripleofdeath Registered Senior Member

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    Quote...
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    Our limit in bodily terms is, on average 90 years, being aware in the way you mentioned will not help you overcome death or disease. So what is the value of such awareness?
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    so you prescribe to "ignorance is bliss" ???

    ... the vail of the true christian!
    (my opinion)
    thus to give away all responsibility to all things that may create harm...
    this i believe is the embodyment of EVIL!!!
    what -ever the religion...

    ...jan... do you care to share your soul age???

    i am most curiouse!!!

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    !...not in a condescending way...!
    i am a student of life!
    i seek to know...
    there for i do not commit suicide!!!
    there is much to learn...

    i get the impresion from the way you "word" things that you suggest that it is not to be bothered with to try to understand these things!...
    this confuses me ...
    and may well be a miss-interpretation...

    please expand as you wish...

    groove on all

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  23. m0rl0ck Consume! Conform! Obey! Registered Senior Member

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    What is everything as it is? Is what you mean everything as it appears to be now only more so?


    Anyway, if you were fully awake or what ever you want to call it, you would be more fully aware of every thing. That means that you would be fully aware of the love, compassion, wisdom and kindness that is your true nature. You would also be fully IDENTIFIED with the entire universe and all in it, you would see yourself in everyone you met . I dont see how one could feel narrow ego driven dissatisfaction with a perspective like that. If you identify with one single solitary ego (your own) most of your suffering is due to the isolation of that narrow perspective. Also being completely in touch, you would realize that the universe is (this is really a place where words werent meant to go so bear with me) becoming every minute, being created and destroyed, sponteanously evolving like a flower blooming. The bliss is being on the spot of, completely identified with, and at the center of that process of creation and becoming.

    You should take the above paragraph with a grain of salt, no amount of reading words will get you any closer to the truth than you already are.
    This is all from a buddhist perspective, which is what i am best aquainted with, your mileage may vary

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