Big bang as a decay process instead of a bang?

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  1. BdS Registered Senior Member

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    Maybe its still decaying causing expansion.
     
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  3. BdS Registered Senior Member

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    Found another recent before BB youtube
     
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  7. Ophiolite Valued Senior Member

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    What is still decaying?
     
  8. sunshaker Registered Member

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    Perhaps another dimensional civilisations proton proton collision. Cern's proton proton collisions, decay, perhaps these "decays" are the big bangs for other universes.
     
  9. Ophiolite Valued Senior Member

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    In what way is it accurate to describe the consequences of a proton-proton collision as a decay. Your use of quotation marks around decay suggests you do not believe it to be, technically, a decay.

    So my question for the OP remains: what is decaying?
     
  10. BdS Registered Senior Member

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    The mass/energy of BB/universe.
     
  11. Ophiolite Valued Senior Member

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    Thank you. In what sense is it decaying?
     
  12. BdS Registered Senior Member

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    Loosing mass/energy slowly while it reduces its density from the central blob it began at.
     
  13. Ophiolite Valued Senior Member

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    So you do not believe in the Laws of Conservation? What evidence do you have that mass and energy are being lost?
     
  14. BdS Registered Senior Member

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    The starting blobs mass is decaying into a greater volume, nothing is lost.
     
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  16. Ophiolite Valued Senior Member

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    You specifically stated that decaying involves "Loosing mass/energy slowly".

    If I substitute your definition of decaying in your quoted sentence then the result is:
    "The starting blob's mass is loosing mass/energy slowly into a greater volume, nothing is lost."

    That is a a clear contradiction and as such makes the sentence nonsense. Please explain.

    If we remove the contradiction then what you appear to be saying is that the expansion of the universe results in the universe expanding. That is hardly news!
     
  17. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    I suppose one could tentatively make some sense of this by suggesting what may be "decaying" is the degree of order in the universe. As it expands the energy is more spread out, i.e. cooler, as per CMBR for example, and entropy is increased.

    But the OP suggests the decay causes the expansion, rather than the (observed) expansion being responsible for the entropy increase (?="decay" of order), so that part of it still requires explanation.
     
  18. Ophiolite Valued Senior Member

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    I suspect the OP has not thought deeply enough about the topic and is making vague generalisations that come dangerously close to being word salad. I am hoping that my questioning may lead them either to recognising this, or to educating me as to what I am missing, or enable them to state their ideas with greater clarity.
     
  19. origin Trump is the best argument against a democracy. Valued Senior Member

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    I think you are trying to say the density of the energy and mass is decreasing due to the increasing volume of space. So there is no loss of energy/mass, it is simply spread out more so there is less energy/mass per unit volume.
     
  20. Ophiolite Valued Senior Member

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    If that is what they are attempting to say then:
    1. It is trivial, obvious, well understood and hardly worth remarking on.
    2. They have chosen a singularly inappropriate word to describe it: decaying.

    So, perhaps there is something more subtle they wish to get across.
     
  21. origin Trump is the best argument against a democracy. Valued Senior Member

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    Agreed.
    Based on past history - the point will more than likely not be subtle it will instead be wrong.
     
  22. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    Not for nothing did we once remark on what you get if you integrate BdS with respect to S.

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  23. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    Fair enough - and good luck in your enterprise!
     

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