Black hole multiverse cosmology and Write4U's mathematical universe

Discussion in 'Pseudoscience' started by Write4U, Mar 18, 2022.

  1. Write4U Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    18,717
    This may be of interest:



    and
     
    Last edited: Mar 18, 2022
  2. Google AdSense Guest Advertisement



    to hide all adverts.
  3. Write4U Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    18,717
    Perhaps you need to listen to it again. I respect any hypothesis that conceptualizes the continuous creation of evolving universes via natural selection. It agrees with my understanding of the evolution via natural selection process within this universe.

    The assumption of a multiverse itself is outside my scope of knowledge.
     
  4. Google AdSense Guest Advertisement



    to hide all adverts.
  5. river

    Messages:
    17,307
    Highlighted

    What about these Universes " evolves " ?
     
  6. Google AdSense Guest Advertisement



    to hide all adverts.
  7. Write4U Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    18,717
    Evolving universes? That is suggested in the concept of a multiverse where black holes are responsible for the birth of new universes and each universe has a slightly different configuration, some of which may be hospitable to the formation of life.

    Don't forget that life is made up of the nucleosynthesis of the earliest and most abundant fundamental cosmic stuff, like;
    1. Hydrogen - H
    2. Helium - He
    3. Lithium - Li
    4. Beryllium - Be
    5. Boron - B
    6. Carbon - C
    7. Nitrogen - N
    8. Oxygen - O
    9. Fluorine - F
    10. Neon - Ne
    11. Sodium - Na
    12. Magnesium - Mg
    13. Aluminum (or Aluminium) - Al
    14. Silicon - Si
    15. Phosphorus - P
    16. Sulfur - S
    17. Chlorine - Cl
    18. Argon - Ar
    19. Potassium - K
    20. Calcium - Ca
    I am sure you recognize several elements required in the formation of biological molecules.

    As each new universe begins in chaos, each universe will have a slightly different evolutionary trajectory, some of which may result in the proper chemical balance to allow for biochemistry to emerge and evolve.

    Universal evolution! That concept sounds entirely reasonable.
     
  8. river

    Messages:
    17,307
    To your last statement , but its not reasonable , at all .
     
  9. Write4U Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    18,717
    Explain why not..?

    Do you deny that this universe started in chaos and that the odds of an emergent universe with the right chemistry is very small? That would suggest many tries at it and that in turn would suggest many starts, i.e. a recycling multiverse, or more dubious a single recycling toroid universe, each version a little different and as luck would have it, we are the lucky recipients of a well balanced universe which continues to evolve in its assembly of biochemicals and the emergence and continuation of life on a few planets like earth in the right universal environment (solar system).

    Of course it could be very simple and the emergence of biology and life was inevitable on an average little planet like earth given the properties of the universe as it is. Inevitable abiogenesis.
    That is Robert Hazen's view and I like that best.
     
    Last edited: Mar 21, 2022
  10. Write4U Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    18,717
    We have pictures from Hubble Telescope;

    Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!

    Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!



    Hubble Telescope spots ‘ghostly face’ in colliding galaxies

    Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!


    Hubble Telescope spots ‘ghostly face’ in colliding galaxies (nypost.com)

    Gravitational exchanges alone will cause energy flow from one galaxy to another during a galactic collision.
     
    Last edited: Mar 21, 2022
  11. river

    Messages:
    17,307
    Straight Plasma Connections . Current Plasma flow .

    You mean rotational exchanges . Not gravity .
     
    Last edited: Mar 23, 2022
  12. Write4U Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    18,717
    These galaxies are rotating all by themselves.The streaming of matter is caused by the gravitational pull of the larger galaxy and it is not just plasma, but all massive objects as well.
     
  13. river

    Messages:
    17,307
    Disagree

    The streams of matter from a galaxy to another through rotational plasma currents . Currents as in Fluidic . Which galaxy is larger ?
     
  14. Write4U Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    18,717
    Yes, either a multiverse where black holes create new and slightly altered universes (evolved via natural selection), some of which are suitable for life.
    Or a single recycling toroidal universe where a single black hole is causal to a constant regeneration (beyond our event horizons) of slightly a slightly altered universe (evolved via natural selection), while maintaining the same volume and energy of the original.

    I like that concept the best as it solves almost all complications that can be imagined.

    Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!


    The Toroidal Universe: A geometric theory of space-time (evolvingsouls.com)

    If we existed at the equator, both holes (1 black and 1 white) would be obscured by the event horizon, but it would account for an accelerating expanding and contracting universe, and account for all matter that is sucked up by a central black hole singularity and regenerated via a white hole (BB). And it might account for smaller black holes that still feed the central singularity and nothing is wasted .

    We know that large black holes can "eat" whole galaxies , but where do they end? Why not a central black hole singularity plus a bunch of smaller BH constantly eating the universe and spitting it out at the other side. That is how life uses energy, recycling resources is a proven natural mechanism.

    Input --> function --> output . How much simpler can it be?
     
    Last edited: Mar 23, 2022
  15. river

    Messages:
    17,307
    Nonsense .
     
  16. Write4U Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    18,717
    As compared to what ? You have a better idea?
     
  17. river

    Messages:
    17,307
    Of course .

    And black-holes don't even come into the picture .

    Pg. 4 . Bottom of the Pg. In this thread , " My Cosmology " . Give it a read . Then tell me what you think . Anybody for that matter .
     
    Last edited: Mar 23, 2022
  18. Write4U Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    18,717
    You are not reading anything I have posted. I provided a perfect description of the existence of black holes and how they all feed the "black box" singularity from the outside in and how the "white hole" singularity regenerates spacetime from the inside out.

    You'll have to do better than that. There is nothing on page 4 name "My Cosmology" and in a search about 6 links to articles called "My Cosmology " show up. I'm not going to read them all.

    So far you haven't countered with anything substantial. Try again!

    "When I’m working on a problem, I never think about beauty. I think only how to solve the problem. But when I have finished, if the solution is not beautiful, I know it is wrong."
    Buckminster Fuller
     
    Last edited: Mar 23, 2022
  19. river

    Messages:
    17,307
    To your last statement , Nonsense .
     
  20. river

    Messages:
    17,307
    I read it , its nonsense .
     
  21. Write4U Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    18,717
    No, I am trying to make sense of a mystery.
    You are making NON-SENSE, understand?
     
    Last edited: Mar 23, 2022
  22. river

    Messages:
    17,307
    Highlighted

    No your not .
     
  23. Write4U Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    18,717
    Yes I am I am making a perfectly reasonable and elegant case for an evolving toroidal universe.

    OTOH, you are not saying anything at all. So until you have something constructive to contribute, please refrain from your negativities, ok?
     

Share This Page