Black holes do not exist

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  1. river

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    Not now either .
     
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  3. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Are you sure? Why not

    This is not real?

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    The first picture of a black hole was made using observations of the center of galaxy M87 taken by the Event Horizon Telescope. The image shows a bright ring formed as light bends in the intense gravity around a black hole 6.5 billion times the Sun’s mass.
    Credits: Event Horizon Telescope Collaboration


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    Radio data from the National Science Foundation’s Very Large Array facility was used to construct this image of Cygnus A, the brightest radio source in the sky located outside our galaxy. Long, thin particle jets produced by a supermassive black hole in the galaxy’s center link to vast lobes where speeding electrons trapped by magnetic fields emit radio waves. From tip to tip, the structure spans half a million light-years.
    Credits: NRAO/AUI

    https://www.nasa.gov/vision/universe/starsgalaxies/black_hole_description.html

    If you are distracted by the emission of radio waves, they do not come from the center of the black hole but from the stretched lobes far from the center and the event horizon.
     
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  5. river

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    • Please do not tell lies.

    Yes

    Because Galaxies show no physical evidence of black-holes . Nothing .
     
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  7. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    I just showed you evidence. You think they're lying?

    Are you overlooking that spacetime is a fluid medium and galaxies rotate in this medium, What happens when you rotate an object in a fluid? You create a whirlpool, which is a hole in the medium with the water surface taking a steep downward attitude, swallowing everything that enters the whirlpool, depending on its size, just like it is known that a strong ocean maelstroms have swallowed small boats.
    https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/the-world-s-largest-whirlpools.html

    Imagine a whirlpool the size of 1,000 light-years across ? With a near vertical slope where everything past the event horizon falls into, to be reduced to compressed elemental particles.

    Explaining quasars
    https://astronomy.com/news/2019/12/this-huge-galaxy-has-the-biggest-black-hole-ever-measured#

    If we can observe whirlpools, maelstroms, and tornadoes on earth, why should we question similar phenomena in space?
     
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  8. river

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    No . Just don't understand .
     
  9. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    But you cannot provide a reason for believing that the scientific evidence is false?
     
  10. river

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    But I can . And I have done so already .
     
  11. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    It didn't convince me.
     
  12. river

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    Obviously . But that doesn't mean what I said isn't true .
     
  13. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Oh I believe you speak the truth. You are saying that if you cannot observe it, it doesn't exist, or has not existed, or will not exist?

    How big do you think the universe is, that you expect to observe all that's there? You can only see a sliver of the EM wave spectrum. Does that mean the rest of the spectrum doesn't exist?

    A butterfly can see ultra violet.
    https://www.theatlantic.com/technol...-can-see-or-glow-in-ultraviolet-light/243634/
    https://www.nationalgeographic.org/media/infrared-vision/#

    Can you see atoms or molecules? If not, how is it that you exist?

    Moved to my consciousness thread.

    I have real trouble understanding your perspective. That bothers me.
     
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  14. river

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    No what I'm saying , is observe , objectively . Think about Galactic Jets , from both poles .

    You have alot to think about .

    Birds see in the ultraviolet as well , as do bees .
     
  15. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    I just demonstrated that the jets you see do not always come from black holes, but from quasars which are dense but not dense enough to be black holes, because you can actually see them.....

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    The pictures I posted show jets not coming from the poles but from outside the event horizon.
     
  16. river

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    So Galactic jets , which is what this thread is about , is not from black holes either .
     
  17. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Not the ones emitting from the poles. Does anybody claim those jets are from black holes?
     
  18. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Well, let's see;

    If nothing can escape a black hole, why do some black holes have jets? (Intermediate)
    It has been seen that black holes throw out jets of high speed particles at almost the speed of light from it's poles along it's spin axis. Since a black hole has so strong a gravitational field inside the Schwartzschild radius that nothing (not even photons) can escape, how come these material particles escape and what force accelerates them to such high speed?

    http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/th...y-do-some-black-holes-have-jets-intermediate#
     
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  19. river

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    Yet at the center of every Galactic Core is a Black hole . According to the current mainstream theory , The conundrum continues .
     
  20. river

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    Very good . But not good enough .

    Which three dimensionally physically means that there was no black hole to begin with .
     
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    Moderator note: river has been warned for knowingly telling a lie.

    He has been a member for here long enough that he cannot plausibly claim to be unaware of the physical evidence for black holes. Moreover, he was shown some, just a few posts above.
     
  22. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Why is that a conundrum? A spinning massive object at the center of a black hole? Maybe that's what forms spiral galaxies when they get big enough.

    David Bohm demonstrated conservation of information in a rotating medium. (Laminar Flow)
     
  23. river

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    Is a black-hole a singularity or not ?
     

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