Black holes do not exist

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  1. river

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    No , these are my own thoughts .

    Black-holes decrease the volume of space , because they condense matter to the point that matter needs less space to exist . Hence this goes on for infinity . Until there is no space and nor matter , nor Energy . It is nothing . Nothing begets nothing , ( No-thing ) for infinity .

    Therefore the Universe should be based on something , the Physical three dimensional Universe , Something , which is for infinity existent .

    river
     
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  5. river

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    Not really , Interested . Heard about it before . Nonsense .
     
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  7. river

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    Anyway from post # 621

    So black-holes can't exist . They don't change the volume of space . Black-holes don't decrease the volume of space
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    No , these are my own thoughts .


    Black-holes decrease the volume of space , because they condense matter to the point that matter needs less space to exist . Hence this goes on for infinity . Until there is no space and nor matter , nor Energy . It is nothing . Nothing begets nothing , ( No-thing ) for infinity .

    Therefore the Universe should be based on something , the Physical three dimensional Universe , Something , which is for infinity existent .

    river
     
  8. river

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    NO.
     
  9. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    So were does the mass equal to 66 billion suns (maybe an entire galaxy) come from?
     
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    To account for what the theory needs to be legit . Based on gravity . And is not the same space that normally 66 billion Suns would take to exist .
     
  11. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Exactly, these suns (not space) are compressed into a singularity
     
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    What happened to the space that these 66 billion stars would normally have taken up ?
     
  13. river

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    Not possible .

    Define , singularity . In your words , Write4U .
     
  14. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    I mostly use the same words as everybody else.
    I could speak Dutch , but it's been a long time since I have Hollands gesproken

    Gravitational singularity
    Gravitational singularity - Wikipedia

    Might well be the backdoor entrance to another universe or in the case of toroidal universe the backdoor to the same Universe.
    A singularity does not need to be small. It just is very dense as in 60 billion suns collapsing into a single ball. When a critical threshold is reached the black hole collapse reverses into a rapid expansion and a new universe or galaxy emerges in a state of chaos which self-orders when cooling slows expansion down.

    Maybe the empty space in the next illustration is the empty remnant of a giant black hole that has shed its mass into a new beginning universe.
     
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  15. river

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    Its all non-sense , Write4U , you know this to be true .
     
  16. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    It makes sense to me. It is simple and elegant, but does have some speculative aspects.
    But until a better concept comes along I'll go with this as the most likely scenario.
     
  17. river

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    It makes sense to many , but its wrong . Mathematical " elegance " is irrelevant .

    Some speculative aspects ? It is all speculative . BH . Mathematical Speculation . Thats it .
     
  18. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    James R post#635

    Are you saying that mathematics is not the essence of the Universe ? If so I agree .
     

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