Body Signals Redux: Proving Mormonism

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  1. Billy Baxter Registered Senior Member

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    Easy. Every time I teased a kid younger than myself as a teenager, my left eye would itch, indicating that I didn't see Justice's effects for this action. Whenever I repented of teasing, my right ear would itch, indicating that I had gained God's mercy, or forgiveness.

    I strive to love everyone even though it's hard sometimes. My two best friends as a child were an atheist and a Catholic. My heart has a soft spot for atheists as a result.

    About 4 billion years old.

    no worries.
     
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  3. Billy Baxter Registered Senior Member

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    The code hasn't changed--it's remarkably consistent--but my understanding of it has. For instance, as late as fall 2015 I believed that side-stitches in my ribs meant I was following an evil spirit while now I believe that view to be erroneous.

    I assume the code is universal.

    Flies and animals cannot sin AFAIK; they are slaves to their instincts.
     
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  5. Billy Baxter Registered Senior Member

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    God has given men their free agency in order to make us accountable for our thoughts, words and actions. "...and God shall wipe away all tears..." A favorite poem of mine goes, "The burden of suffering seems a tombstone hung about our necks; while in reality it is only the weight which is necessary to hold down the diver while he is hunting pearls."
     
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  7. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    Thank you for taking the time to provide this personal example.
    May I ask why did you want to tease someone?
    To do so is cruel did you not understand you were being cruel?
    Were you ever cruel to animals?
    I think kindness is a wonderful quality.
    I am kind and I make a point to thank folk who have been kind to me specifically saying " I thank you for your kindness" and I can see people enjoy that recognition.
    Alex
     
  8. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    Why do you ever find it hard.
    You should not judge someone such that you find it difficult.
    Love is supposed to be unconditional.
    Alex
     
  9. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    The Bible gives a much shorter time do you not lose faith to confront such inaccuracy.
    Alex
     
  10. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    A favourite saying of one of the charge sisters I worked under was
    "It's hard to soar like an eagle when surrounded by turkeys"

    This was trotted out when any of us were caught doing a perceived wrong.

    That all changed when a co-worker and I were making a patient's bed.

    Charge sister came up as we tried to appear busy.

    Out came the phrase.

    My co-worker continued to work in harmony with me making the bed, head down, eyes focused on the bed sheet and said in a voice loud enough to be heard the other end of the ward

    "It's hard being a turkey when being shat on by eagles"

    Time stopped.

    Next thing I remember I finished making the bed, collected the patient from theatre and finished my shift.

    Co-worker and I passed our exams and neither of us heard the phrase again.

    Humpty Dumpty loves that
    So does Poe

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  11. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    I must remember that to pass onto the family of murder victims.
    That should pick them up.
    Part of the problem I have with religion is this roll out of tripe to dismiss something that should be treated with greater maturity.
    He who hesitates is lost...but look before you leap.
    Why do folk have to fall back on trite stupid sayings when they could think and say something original.
    And I am supposed to now roll over and say oh suffering is all of Gods plan...What good is a God who will not use his power to relieve suffering....damn stupid nonsence that side steps the obvious.
    God loves us and yet let's you suffer.
    Why?
    Free will.
    Nonsence.
    Pity.
    Alex
     
  12. Billy Baxter Registered Senior Member

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    I got teased a lot as a boy, and in turn teased others. Children can be cruel without realizing it. I love animals and don't recall being cruel to any beyond teasing kittens with string (which they loved!)
     
  13. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    So you must have known how hurtful such an action was to your victim and yet you still tormented someone.
    How can you defend those actions?
    Someone was cruel to me so I am justified to be cruel.
    I don't understand.
    Alex
     
  14. Billy Baxter Registered Senior Member

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    The evidence for an old Earth is overwhelming. I believe the Bible's "seven days" of creation should be understood as "seven long periods of time." I could be mistaken. Doesn't shake my faith either way.
     
  15. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Three questions
    1. Why doesn't he make the oyster float to the surface and give us nets to gather them?
    2. What if the diver doesn't find any pearls?
    3. What if the diver runs out of air and can't get rid of the weight?
    4. Supplementary:- Does the weight become a lost at sea watery graveyard tombstone?
    Each question is worth 25 points.

    Pass percentage is 70%.

    You may start when ready.

    No time limit. You have until the end of eternity or the rapture which ever comes first.

    Humpty Dumpty just scraps through test.
    Poe is always testing.

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  16. Billy Baxter Registered Senior Member

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    I don't justify it or defend it.
     
  17. Billy Baxter Registered Senior Member

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    5. Extra credit: Why doesn't God make oysters land critters?
     
  18. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    Yet it says seven days.
    It seems that believers blot out problems in the bible and don't let them affect the overall validity they place upon the bible.
    If I deal with a man and I catch him telling one lie I conclude that nothing he says has any credibility.
    And in the bible there are many things that ...well let's call them lies not to would be a lie...should we not treat it the same as I treat a man who tells a lie.
    Why not apply the little saying ,seeimg you like sayings and this one has power, ....
    Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me.
    Why can you accept being fooled more than once.
    Is there no limit to the excuses to save the bible.
    Does your left side play up when you read things in the bible,?
    Alex
     
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  19. Billy Baxter Registered Senior Member

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    Mormons don't believe the Bible is infallible or perfect in every way. For instance, ever hear of the "four corners (or is it quarters?) of the earth." The scriptures were written by human, fallible people who didn't live in a vacuum. Condemn us not for our imperfections, said one Book of Mormon prophet.

    TOBS doesn't work with every little thought or action. I can't imagine a life where God commented on every thought, can you?
     
  20. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    1. No legs
    2. No slithery flexible body parts outside the hard shell
    3. Not enough food in air as apposed to water for the oyster to filter and live on
    4. No eyes to detect enemies
    5. No science degree in chemical engineering (the oyster that is).
    Im happy with the first 4 but not entirely sure about 5.

    Humpty Dumpty thinks 5 is a goer.
    Poe has a blue elephant stamp on the back of his hand but no memory of how it got there.

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  21. Billy Baxter Registered Senior Member

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    You mean that's not a permanent tat? Thank the gods! lol
     
  22. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    A lie is an imperfection that I will always condemn.

    Again why quote someone?

    Why would you not condemn someone for their imperfection?

    He beats his wife...oh let's not condemn him for his imperfection.

    He steals from his employer...oh let's not condemn him for his imperfection.

    I can not see how the fact a prophet said this makes it worthy of recognition... It is wrong..like so many things yet you just accept it without question or thought...how can you get by just accepting stuff without thinking if it makes sence.

    I don't understand.

    Alex
     
  23. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    You know it's called Cherry Picking.

    Smart girl Cherry.

    Would not come out tonight.

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