# Books: SciFi & Fantasy

Discussion in 'SciFi & Fantasy' started by Porfiry, Oct 3, 2001.

1. ### thinkingBannedBanned

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its what I thought , some how

if thats true , then it puzzles me why nobody seems to be aware of these mathematical concepts

hence cesspool

3. ### DywyddyrPenguinaciously duckalicious.Valued Senior Member

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There's a difference between "not being aware" and "there being something to reply to".
You could have Googled for at least some background and then asked pertinent questions.
You didn't even bother acknowledging Capt. Bork's post.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_(physics)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_least_action

IIRC Feynman was something of a wizard with action principles, using that method in preference to others at times.

5. ### thinkingBannedBanned

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I didn't ackowledge anybody's response , I was too busy explaining what Neal was trying to get at

it took awhile

7. ### thinkingBannedBanned

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yet as brilliant as Feynman was and he was , is he now out dated in his thinking ?

8. ### thinkingBannedBanned

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look again in Neal's book

how to get 8 pieces from 4

if you have a square 2 by 2

by adding an extra row , vertically and horizontally you get 9 , 3 by 3

the only way to get 8 is by dividing the square , ( 2 by 2 ) diagionally

9. ### DywyddyrPenguinaciously duckalicious.Valued Senior Member

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Er, no.
Action principles is another way of looking at things.
Not a different method of thinking.

And?
Nothing to to do with action principles.

10. ### krokahRegistered Senior Member

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Lincoln Childs and Douglas Preston: "Relic" and "Thunderhead", then just Childs's "Terminal Freeze". Also, Dean Koontz's "Watchers" and "Phantoms" are great reads. Of course Asimove, Bradbury, Stephenson, Wells, and many others...

11. ### ShogunBleed White and Blue!Valued Senior Member

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Ender's Game series is pretty decent. We had to read it for novel study and this is one of the few novel study books I enjoyed.

12. ### Escaped GoatRegistered User and AbuserRegistered Senior Member

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The Name of the Wind by Patrick Rothfuss. It started semi-slowly but ended up being one of my favorite fantasy reads ever. It was typical fantasy but still great.

Also, the A Song of Ice and Fire series by George R.R. Martin is obviously wonderful.

13. ### synthesizer-patelSweep the leg Johnny!Valued Senior Member

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a science Fiction writer who probably hasnt quite managed to cross the atlantic yet is a scottish guy called Ken MacLeod.
For those who know their SF but havent heard of him yet, he's one of Iain M Banks' best friends - in fact it was IMB who persuaded him to become a writer because he liked his ideas so much.

High praise indeed.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos...pe=ss&index=books-uk&field-author=Ken MacLeod

I can definitely recommend the Fall Revolution series, The Execution Channel, and The Night Sessions - I havent read any of the Engines of Light, and Newton's Wake is a bit shit

I also just finished Halting State by Charles Stross and it is by a very long way the best bit of near future speculative fiction I've read in a very long time.

Nerdgasm or what? lol!

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Halting-Sta...=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1262128418&sr=1-1

14. ### glaucontending tangentiallyRegistered Senior Member

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Nice recommendation.
I actually found him via Charles Stross' blog...

Banks is a genius.

If you like that, you've barely scratched the surface of Stross.
Halting State is easily one of his 'softest' SF books.

Start with Iron Sunrise. Besides Banks, Stross is my favourite contemporary SF writer.

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16. ### glaucontending tangentiallyRegistered Senior Member

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Seems to be.

Not yet, though planning on it.
I'm currently finishing of the Stross collection "Toast", as well as Banks' "Matter".

Nice.
ta

I'm definitely a fan of 'idea' writing myself, though, happily, Stross does tend to go towards the 'hard' SF as opposed to fluffy space opera.
Nonetheless, he's a heavy 'idea' guy... so it's always a good read. He doesn't get bogged down in the 'hard' details [like Reynolds... IMO], so the concepts flow nicely.

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If you like this book, you will more than likely enjoy Terraforming Earth by Jack Williamson. It is a little disturbing, and has more to do with the human condition than terraforming.....

19. ### glaucontending tangentiallyRegistered Senior Member

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I agree.
Ever since Donaldson's Covenant Chronicles series, given how brilliant it was, I had pretty much given up on fantasy.
I was happily surprised at how good Martin's stories are.
Sadly, we've been waiting for the next book, A Dance with Dragons for 5 years now. I know it's difficult work but come on....

20. ### ricreryBannedBanned

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No one has brought up the Horus Heresy series, shame on you bad people!

21. ### glaucontending tangentiallyRegistered Senior Member

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??

Never heard of it..

22. ### DywyddyrPenguinaciously duckalicious.Valued Senior Member

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I'm still waiting for the final volume of that. Not due out in hardback (and I generally buy paperbacks - less shelf space taken up, not to mention cover price) until October this year.
Edit: oh hell! It's apparently the last two volumes - The Last Chronicles of Thomas Covenant is a quadrilogy... October 2010 and sometime in 2013. I hope I live long enough.

Aaargh!!
Not Evil Empire Warty Thou potboilers...