Bush in Fellujah: "Yes, Chicken Little, the sky is falling in."

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Whirlwind, May 1, 2004.

  1. Whirlwind Banned Banned

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    Well, you have to hand it to our Whitehouse CHICKEN HAWK, he had bit off more than he could chew and it was time to disengorge Fallujah, much as Saddam had disengorged Kuwait with the entire US Marine Corps, Army rangers, and the weight of the US Airforce on his pale keister on January 17, 1991.

    It must have been unbearable for our swaggering cowboy moron to admit that he didn't need another 200+ soldiers killed because this wasn't another Tarawa or even a smaller pocket sized Iwo Jima.

    Well, the fat lady hasn't sung yet and I suspect that "Ol "BLOOD & GUTS will do his best to assert himself elsewhere in Iraq. (Sucker seems to get a "rush" when the blood is flowing)

    Meanwhile, Mosqata al Sadar must be feeling his oats at having made the entire US military retire from Fellujah and making his arch-nemesis George W. Bush go into the oval room and wack off in utter frustration.

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    Stay tuned folks, "the best is yet to come!"

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    The marines made the correct move in trying to let Iraqi forces, now under the former Republican Guard general, try and handle the situation in Fallujah. They've only pulled out of a few positions, and still encircle the city. They'll wait and see how it develops over the next few days. As far as Sadr, I don't think he's controlling the resistance in Fallujah. That would be a pretty good feat indeed, if a Shiite junior cleric could rule the Sunni resistance in the Sunni Triangle from his mosque in Najaf.
     
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    "Fools rush in, where wise men wouldn't dare to thread," more than an old song, actually, more truth than poetry.....

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    As US casualties continue to mount in Iraq, the thought that the US can get Iraqi's to kill Iraqi's in support of Yankee Imperialism and its confiscatory oil policies, seems rather far fetched. When the Iraqi Army refused to enter Fallujah and trade lead with the Fayadeen fighters two weeks ago, that was ample proof that "BLOOD IS THICKER THAN WATER" among the Iraqi people.

    After all, who in the Middle East wants to be associated with the CRUSADERS? I mean, people that fool around with the occupying CRUSADERS, especially those associated with financing Jewish terrorism are DEAD DUCKS, today, tonight or late tomorrow!

    American's seem to forget that those 500,000 children that died as the result of US inspired sanctions were the siblings of many of these people. If there's one thing the Arab/Islamic mind NEVER forgets is, who did what to you, when and why and how do you seek and obtain revenge the soonest and in the cruelist manner.

    America also seems to forget that the Iraqi people know that America isn't there for the beer, that in fact, all the billions that the CRUSADERS have been spending out of the US treasury on Iraq are expected to be re-embursed (with interest) from proceeds from the sale of Iraqi oil. (Cheney's plan).

    I mean, Iraq is already pumping out 1.3 million barrels+ of crude each day and the barrel of oil is selling, for what - almost $50.00 a barrel? So, where is the money being deposited from the sale of Iraqi oil, "into the Iraqi treasury?"

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    The American people have grown weary with the number of casualties of this so-called PRE-EMPTIVE war. So look for Bush to be sent the way of his decrepit father, right after THANKSGIVING, and for John Kerry to take over the helm of government starting in January, 2005.

    this Bush MF'er has introduced many things that the people of America will never accept. With Herr John Ashcroft, DBA: the East German "Stasi" Gestapo game plan - whereby everyone "rats" on each other, is not THE AMERICAN WAY. Financing the Zionist BRUTALITY in Israel has made American's look in the mirror and wonder where DECENCY & FAIR PLAY have gone in this so-called Judeo/Christian nation.

    A US government operating with the help of a bunch of Judenrat Israel 1st'er's and their NeoCon(men) government "within" a goverment makes American's nervous. Fighting to defend a world pariah run by Zionist THUGS & MURDERERS as we see in Ertez Ysriol is definately a NO WAY JOSE!

    A president that GOES TO WAR just because of the shortcomings he experienced in trying to grow up and be a real MACHO MAN because of his being raised like a sissy by a HTDBB (high testosterone domineering Barbara Bitch), err, err, I mean Barbara Bush, who raised this little retard "sh!t" along with the other two losers, Neil and Jeb, and what do we have here? A George W. Bush that has to don military garb and play "SNOOPY the RED BARON, in order to help make his Viagra work?

    Then we have a whoremongering Neil Bush that should be in prison for bribe taking and grand theft (The Silverado S&L where he was one of the directors blew $2 billion smackerooos in the 1980's) - and then we have paunchy Jeb Bush that plays "FUNNY" games with PREGNANT & HANGING Chads to help get his brother get (se)elected to the highest office in the land.

    Yassir, we are in deep sh!t in the Middle East. America has never been hated more than it is being hated by MUSLIMS worldwide right now. Even his "lap dog II" King Abdullah of Jordan, snubbed the moron by canceling his visit to Washington 10 days ago. Egypt's Mubarak has also chewed his arse and the only one doing the "ASS KISSING" right now, is his MAN OF PEACE, the Kosher fat pig Ariel Sharon that may be indicted for BRIBE TAKING next month!

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    It's possible some of what you say might make some sense if you didn't spit your message like some rabid dog. It's simply hard to make sense of it because it seems like one long screech. After the first paragraph, I quickly lose interest.
     
  8. 15ofthe19 35 year old virgin Registered Senior Member

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    Excellent point Bob. That's probably one of the root causes for most of the Arab humiliations at the hands of the rest of the world, don't you think? You would think a people so proud would finally hear a collective click in their minds and start to understand the reason so many of them lead such desperate lives, but I wouldn't gamble on it happening in my lifetime. Their way of thinking will continue to derail their evolution as a people for many years to come. Truly a sad situation.

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  9. hypewaders Save Changes Registered Senior Member

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    "Their way of thinking"
    -is the same as anyone else's- you should understand that "they" have not devolved while your Ubermenshen tribe surpassed them. The differences are vast and circumstantial, while the people faced with differing political and economic situations share the very same motivations and sensibilities.

    "Truly a sad situation."
    -Crocodile tears.
     
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    Fair enough hype. Replace the word "their" with that and then explain it to me since you seem to have more firsthand experience in the region than most on this forum. That the "Arab" world (however you choose to define it) has been consistently humiliated at the hands of "the West" is really not up for debate. The scorecard is lopsided at best. Thoughts?

    Those are not my words hype, they are Bobs. Why aren't you taking exception with this characterization? Do you agree with it?
     
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  12. hypewaders Save Changes Registered Senior Member

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    15/19:"Replace the word "their" with that and then explain it to me"

    Without threadjacking here, the only point I wanted to make is that there's not so much a regression of "societal evolution" as Limbaugh victims might call it. I agree with you that the region is sadly headed for more bad times, and I expect that a lot of backwardness is going to result from the lack of effective institutions beyond religious ones, as an avoidable cultural conflict spools up. On all sides, a hardening of attitudes is underway. But I'm not prepared to write it off with pity for the poor buggers for having an inferior culture.

    The pressures causing the disasters ahead have much less to do with differences of culture and religion, even though those differences cause a lot of dangerous distraction. It doesn't take tremendous insight to understand that Arabs or Polynesians or Americans or Eskimos (anyone) would react in similar ways in the case of an outside force so profoundly imposing and manipulating without concensus or mandate. The Busheviks are giving pan-Arabism and Islamism a far bigger boost than did Nasser or the Ayatollahs.

    When the next shockwaves of blowback are felt, many people are likely to be mesmerized by the religious and cultural encapsulations of political movement, which will compound the conflict, because bigotry creeps in everywhere.

    "If there's one thing the Arab/Islamic mind NEVER forgets is, who did what to you, when and why and how do you seek and obtain revenge the soonest and in the cruelist manner."

    This is one example (thanks, Bob). There is no unique Arab revenge gene, and neither is there a unique culture of revenge. The United States is now deeply and misguidedly tangled up in Iraq because the of the very same tendencies, where an irrational desire for revenge was a prime component of the murkily rallied crusade. Religion is not uniquely at play in shaping Arab politics. The world view of present US leadership is profoundly influenced by fundamentalism as well, and it looks just as menacing from the Arab side of the conflict as the radical Mullahs seem to many in the West.

    The Arab world is in crying need of reform, but confusion over cultural superficialities, and the escalation of violence and revenge cycles, are examples of how the West, acquiescing to a small White House cabal, is on a very provocative and counterproductive course. We are repeatedly inciting rage, blaming the rage on the enraged, undermining all institutions but religious ones, tipping the entire region into instability, and all the while, lamenting that those testy Arabs just can't get their shit together.

    This is not a problem with understanding the Arab mind. It is the slow and seldom-noticed, dehumanizing ignorance of human nature in other peoples. The USA has been conspicuously denying the Arab world basic respect and fairness, and now is demanding the same. This will cause a great deal of avoidable turmoil.

    Already enough senseless provocation has been inflicted for there to be dire consequences for the US economy and national security. To turn things around, the US leadership is going to have to admit many critical errors, and whether pride will prevent this before a disaster is unknown. Bad US strategy, and dirty US partnerships are common knowledge in the Arab world, but nothing is going to change for the better until America either comes clean, or is cut down to size. Americans have yet to realize how vulnerable we are, not just physically, but economically. It would do us far more good to ponder that more than the unremarkable foibles of Arab and Islamic society.
     

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