Campaign 2020 media coverage, science forum consideration

Discussion in 'Politics' started by iceaura, Feb 20, 2019.

  1. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    Some background info to warn against carelessness in categorization of media coverage:
    https://guzey.com/how-life-sciences-actually-work/
    First:
    But (and this is pointedly relevant when attempting to distinguish agenda driven and political from inertia enabled and institutional bias, such as in this thread):
    ( I do rely on the top journals, such as Science, for much of my image or assumption of what politically disinterested info about scientific matters looks like. How much their factual error rate, their rate of getting the physical facts wrong, influences my view of what constitutes political influence in other sources - such as the corporate rightwing media disparagements of the research they publish - apparently needs more careful consideration than I at least have granted it. I have not presumed, as an assumption going in, that what I read in Nature is as likely to be inaccurate and misleading regarding the physical facts as accurate and informative (the high end estimate of this author). Whether this correction of carelessness with the physical facts significantly bleeds over into good assessments of political meddling is something I do consider, always, but have not checked while assuming a 50% rate of correction necessary.)
     
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  3. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    https://neonnettle.com/news/8630-to...ines-flipped-votes-in-mississippi-race-report
    Reeves is among the "rising stars" of the modern Republican Party.
    https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search...ram2=ds_direct_vela&param3=nfm___&param4=1000
    The mass (i.e. "respectable", i.e Bothsides of Everything) media coverage of the voting machine "glitches" in Mississippi this past week has been near zero in my neck of the woods.

    Is anyone's mass media market covering it? Salon doesn't count.
     
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  5. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    anyone for a side, as long as its a side
    and dont forget to hoist the flag
    preferably not any chinese made flags
    or chinese made stars and stripes clothes ...
    oops
     
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  7. dumbest man on earth Real Eyes Realize Real Lies Valued Senior Member

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    This Side...That Side...
    Saw this:

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    ...
    So..."Keep your Elephant"/Republican..."Keep your Democrat"/Donkey...
    Trump is "Lion"/ ???
     
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  8. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    It's the Republican Party vs everyone else, in the US.
    We went through all that bs with Reagan and Bush and W/Cheney.
    Burn the lifeboats.
    Trump = Republican. Republican = Trump. Tattoo it on their foreheads, repeat it whenever possible.
    Standard issue - a bit more vulgar than Reagan and even less capable than W, but otherwise right down the center of the Republican Party.
     
  9. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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  10. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    iconography sells opium to the psychopaths

    it is exactly the same as saying you refuse to discuss the Holocaust with Holocaust deniers
    while on one side it seems morally correct
    on another your intellect reasons that you should attempt to engage and educate those who are not nazis & just ignorant.



    Burn down the house of representatives and blame Winston Churchill democracy
     
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  11. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    Morals have little to do with my particular anti-propaganda strategy. Credibility of the news would be the central issue.
     
  12. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    The news as a majority is provided as entertainment that must gain an audience and hold it.
    the idea of independent news seems to align more so with a socialist concept of structure.
    you cant be independent of profit requirements unless you do not need to make a profit

    free market competition for audience by media companys does not deliver morality as much as they might like to advertise.

    bi-partisan ideology is projected to be free market capitalism delivering morality on one side Verses conceptual ideology of fascism(be that in a communist, socialist of capitalist paradigm)

    if we define profit as the dictator then what happens to its moral conceptualization ?
    most people declare there is a direct ability to remain impartial by a polarized state of duopoly of moral directive...
    however, we seem to see that is not always the case.
    is that because of a lack of regulation ?

    how do you morally regulate a concept of duopoly of moral directive ?
    this seems to be a sociology law & ethics question
     
  13. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    Your intellect should warn you against wasting time and effort in that fashion.

    It should also warn you against using "nazi", which deflects attention from the fascist movement currently taking power in the US.
     
  14. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    lol
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linebacker

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    while i can comprehend your appeal to the sheople masses
    my terminology has profound purpose by its precise terms and references

    do you think the American patriots from WWII were fighting against capitalism or fighting against nazi-ism ?

    i am directly elucidating the massive gap in social comprehension between the social conceptualization of WWII and modern social morality

    the casual glance is toward self serving pervasiveness

    who cares what they call themselves
    nazi commy
    as long as they are spending money ... (right?! am i right?!...)

    pay-per-play morality labels playing label games

     
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  15. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    You are almost incomprehensible in general, and using "nazi" is a mistake your intellect should warn you not to make - not an accurate term at all (regardless of precision), and a badly misleading reference.
    What they are called matters. The label should not help them hide.
     
  16. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    shouting "no" doesnt explain reasoning and it doesnt educate.
    maybe you could give a brief idea of why me using the word for those parading about wearing swastika's and nazi salutes who self identify publicly as being nazi
    are not to be called nazi ?

    i am getting clearly distinct mixed messages from your context
    maybe you could elucidate one more clearly to remove doubt of the other.

    my area of interest is sociology and anthropological psychology, not cults or gangs or extrmist groups.

    when i compare a label i use it for its generalised meaning to the psychological determination of the thing being labelled.

    a good example might be the UK group that is pro Queen n country which has been labelled by some to be a alt-right nationalist group when they clearly do not project that publicly or ideologically.

    there seems to be some type of game at play among 'some' where they wish to try and flame Judaism by asserting alarmist language.
    i am not doing that.
    i am not trying to re-brand the term by its virtue of abuses to people or groups by normalizing the terminology(like the word nigger was by African Americans as a process to psychological liberation of social reference normalization empowerment).

    however i am WELL AWARE i am loosing my audiences ability to comprehend at the end of that bracketed sentence which tells me maybe i should not bother wasting my time pretending to engage with fake intellectualism... ?

    i shall leave that open ended given the various intentions you may have with the message between the lines.

    am i reading your sub-context correctly ?
     
  17. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    It lets all the others hide behind that limited reference - and they are the main problem.
    It also ruins the discussion of fascism in the US, usually - it offers an opportunity to deflect attention toward specifically nazi stuff, instead of US fascism, and interested parties seldom miss that opportunity.
    There is no such thing as a 'generalized meaning to psychological determination'. Neither are you comparing labelings. Neither is using a label an act of comparing labels.
    You are posting gibberish, half the time. That's an example.
     
  18. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    The media coverage of campaigns in the US has a long history, of course - and we can take a look at it for info on what is likely to happen in this political season.
    The news, from thirty years ago and more right down to yesterday, is grim:
    http://driftglass.blogspot.com/2019/09/somebody-oughta-do-something-continued.html
     
  19. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    ok
    point taken and noted

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    i am not going to pick at your seems when i see a thread coming loose.
    i will leave it there.

    i do not gain self esteem from the degradation of others, unlike the standard western capitalist model of Ego constructed ideological morality

    why you decide to throw your lot in with them suddenly to play some bi-partisanship trope with me i am not sure
    i will leave it there on the issue
     

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