Can Liz Truss survive her premiership?

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  1. Saint Valued Senior Member

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    Can Liz Truss survive her premiership?
    What is the expected outcome of anti-Russia, anti-China?
     
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  3. geordief Valued Senior Member

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    You suggest she may be assassinated?In what sense might she "not survive her premiership"?

    Who is "anti-Russia" or "anti China"?

    That part of their own populations who might not like anti democratic expansionist dictatorships?

    Those who risk imprisonment ,"reeducation" camps ,poisonings or accidents in the proximity of balconies when they voice an inconvenient opinion?
     
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  5. Sarkus Hippomonstrosesquippedalo phobe Valued Senior Member

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    Hopefully it will only be a short premiership, as there should be a General Election in 2024, at which point her personal failings, and the failings of the Conservative party as a whole, should be more than enough to see her/them ousted. Although a hung parliament might still see her condescending smug grin and otherwise disdainful mug at the top of the tree. I say "hopefully" and "should", as I thought the same of Bojo, and it took his own party to get rid of him, albeit much later than I'd have hoped.
    Ah, well.

    Anti-Russia, and anti-China... what?
    Do you mean what is the expected outcome of the Conservatives in the UK (and the parties in the US) having an anti-Russia and anti-China agenda? Regarding anti-Russia, I'd have thought stopping their invasion of Ukraine would be a good starting point, and then disincentivising further aggression by the little man at the top with the obvious inferiority complex.
    Regarding anti-China, I'd think it's more a case of strengthening our own security against them, in terms of tech and cyber, and also trying to restrict their aggressive moves against those who don't wish it.
    Something like that.

    What do you think their expected outcome is?
     
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  7. C C Consular Corps - "the backbone of diplomacy" Valued Senior Member

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    Sure. She'll survive for a short or aborted interval just as BoJo and Theresa May did.

    Can Liz Truss survive the coming storm?: For someone who has the most cabinet experience of any new Conservative prime minister since Alec Douglas-Home, Liz Truss remains something of an enigma. The other day, I looked her up in all the memoirs, diaries and instant histories covering the past 10 years [...] The mark she has left on these early drafts of history is light indeed. ... Apart from impressing with her ambition, energy and resemblance to Margaret Thatcher, she left no legacy to speak of.

    The Truss challenge: Can a besieged Britain be saved?: Truss says she wants Britain to have a dynamic, low-tax economy, where growth is not limited by arbitrary restriction nor tied up in legal costs. This is a worthwhile goal—but two things stand in her way.

    The first is the magnitude of the coming crisis, which Truss will need to survive with the help of weapons of last resort (namely, cash handouts which she had previously foresworn).

    And the second is the fundamental brokenness of Britain’s economy and society: each a domain in which vetoes are king, obstruction is considered evidence of sanity and deliberation, and many people would rather the economy never grow again if they can avoid unwelcome change to their own vicinity.

    Britain is a place where gargantuan windfarms can be delayed over a year because an irate local dislikes their effect on the sea view—and where the courts take his side. Britain's administrative state—its legal status quo, its civil service, its accountants, all love obstruction. Its courts will fight new building tooth and nail. Its Treasury will fight tax cuts of all kinds on the grounds of fiscal prudence.

    [...] Truss faces electoral, practical, even philosophical challenges. Voters want to be saved but they don’t want the country to change. They want cash in their pockets but don’t want the things that bring economic growth.

    This is a paradox that Truss must understand and learn to face down....
     
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  8. C C Consular Corps - "the backbone of diplomacy" Valued Senior Member

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    Zilch. Nothing can derail China becoming and remaining the most powerful country the world has ever known (see embedded video segment below.). As well as China's nationalist social "mental hygiene" persevering over the coming decades.

    Even Russia will continue to be reliable from the standpoint of its people always being under the subjugation of some authoritarian or quasi-tyrannical regime (barring brief periods of transition). On the plus side, Ukraine has vehemently punched another hole into the caricature of Slavs (in bulk) living up etymologically and historically to their namesake. A bigoted stigma which Russian citizens have (unjustly?) borne the burden of primarily being responsible for maintaining.

     
  9. Saint Valued Senior Member

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    her job is not easy, she needs to clean the shit of Conservatives Government.
     
  10. Sarkus Hippomonstrosesquippedalo phobe Valued Senior Member

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    One can not clean the "shit" while being part of that same "shit" responsible for covering the place in said "shit" in the first place. The only thing she may do differently is not spray the "shit" around quite as brazenly as BoJo. She'll likely not be as prone to farcical blunder as her predecessor, but she has her own core problems to deal with, the most obvious being how she comes across to the public (as being condescending, smug, arrogant, entitled, and out of touch with reality).
     
  11. Saint Valued Senior Member

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    She will borrow 150b pounds to foot the energy bills.
     
  12. Sarkus Hippomonstrosesquippedalo phobe Valued Senior Member

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    Your point is...?
     
  13. Saint Valued Senior Member

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    borrowing means need to pay back.
     
  14. Sarkus Hippomonstrosesquippedalo phobe Valued Senior Member

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    Yes. Just like the current national debt of c.£ 2.4 trillion. Again, what point are you trying to make?
     
  15. Saint Valued Senior Member

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  16. Sarkus Hippomonstrosesquippedalo phobe Valued Senior Member

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    Your point being?
     
  17. Saint Valued Senior Member

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    US is always cheating her allies including UK.
    US is the biggest conman in the world.
    Truss anti China and gain nothing, she will follow Boris to got to India look for help, but India is unreliable, India will not help UK anything.
     
  18. Saint Valued Senior Member

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    Trying to fight China is committing suicide.
    The West don't think is still 100 years ago.
     
  19. Saint Valued Senior Member

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    I advise UK's prime minister: mind your own business at home, your Great Britain is no longer great, it is Small Britain.
    You are no longer strong enough to colonize and bully people, to rob people's wealth,
    you are no longer rich enough to buy people's businesses.
    You are just like a thief now.
     
  20. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    You are yet another chippy Malaysian, apparently, now breaking out in technicolour and larger fonts as you get more and more worked up

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    . Actually, I have yet to meet one that does NOT have a chip on his shoulder about Britain, and I have met a number in my career with a multinational.

    No doubt the colonial past is painful, but this way of trying to get even just makes you look petty and neurotic.

    China is an extremely sinister, IT-enabled, totalitarian state and needs to be resisted strongly. If Malaysia ever comes under the domination of China - and it might - you will find you would far rather be ruled by the British Empire.
     
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  21. foghorn Valued Senior Member

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    I don't think s/he is Malaysian?
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  22. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    That means this individual is Malaysian but is a member of the sizeable proportion of the population (from memory, about 10%) that is ethnically Chinese rather than Malay. The 90% of Malays tend to bear a grudge against the ethnic Chinese, who they consider to have an unfair advantage in securing the best positions in society. Malaysia is just one big happy family, basically.

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  23. Sarkus Hippomonstrosesquippedalo phobe Valued Senior Member

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    Ooh, he's opted to colourise and enlarge his display of ignorance now. How novel.

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