Changing UAE & Saudi into Democracies

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Eluminate, Apr 20, 2004.

  1. Eluminate Registered Senior Member

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    This where its leading I fathom for one simple reason. They are the financeers and hold the strings to most if not all the terrorist activity in the world. I think the US should topple both monarchies since they have been nothing but creating problems on the world scene. In the long term this would be the best solution then keeping them as they are now which is basicly two faced diplomats with their own agenda who create havok elsewhere to shift view from them to someone else. When it is really them who are responsible in the end.
     
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    "Creating problems on the world scene."

    Interesting fallacy you have there Eluminate!

    I mean how many Saudi and UAE soldiers now occupy anyones land, or use tanks and US supplied F-16's, Apache helicopter gunships with their horrendous Hellfire/TOW antitank missiles to murder, maim and assassinate civilains? How many Saudi and UAE politicians are out trying to screw "anyone" out of their natural resources? (hint: Oil)

    Want to eluminate, err, err, I mean "eliminate" all terrorism in the Middle East?

    1. Send all US troops home? (Yeah, leave the Arabs alone and in peace).
    2. Get the Jews out of 100% of embryonic Palestine.*
    3. Send UN troops to guard the border between Israel and Palestine for 120 months with orders to shoot "any" aggressors or land squatters.
    4. Forbide the US from sending billions in weapons into the Middle East.
    5. Get the US to stop being the world's oil glutton and unbridled bully.
    6. Send G. W. Bush and his pro-Israel Judenrat cabinet to pick lettuce in
    California or Olives and Dates in the Negev desert!

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    YOU'RE DONE!

    PEACE AT LAST!

    Whirlwind
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    *As things are, Israel has already stolen 78% of the land allotted by the original (legally binding) English Balfour Declaration, for a side-by-side Palestine and Israel, with Palestine holding "only" 22%, (of which 9% of its 22% holdings is held by IDF Army posts and the "Illegal" Jewish settlements) - and all-the-while, Israel continues to steal 48% of its daily water requirements from the Palestinian aquifers on the West Bank and Gaza?!
     
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  5. Eluminate Registered Senior Member

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    17 out of 19 hijakers on the planes that hit the Twin towers were Saudi nationals so there is a big problem that must be dealt with.
    Al Waleed which has been recently "killed" in chechnya for the 6th times was a Saudi national who got financing out of Suadi Arabia and the Mid East for Terorist Causes specificly bombings in Moscow and other cities that targeted civilians.
    Cash incentives that are given to homicide bombers are primarily financed by the Saudi and Uae as well as other rich monarchies on the peninsula.
    And the list of their dirty money and how its used to terrorize all the parts of the world goes on. So no they have to be deposed and dealt with.

    I think you can't read this isn't about Israel its about the Financeers of terrorism ergo those two countries probably account for the vast majority of the financing and money laundry activity that result in terrorist acts...
    And they must and will be held responsible......
     
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    They are the financeers and hold the strings to most if not all the terrorist activity in the world.

    They also hold the world's economy on their finger, if anything the Bob Woodward book tells us how close the US is to S.A. The Saudi’s knew before Colin Powell for Christ sakes about the invasion of Iraq. If the world had real justice in it, S.A would have been invaded not Iraq. But the reality is 265 billion barrels speaks louder then any gun. Frankly it’s that oil that allows millions of Americans get to work.

    I think the US should topple both monarchies since they have been nothing but creating problems on the world scene. In the long term this would be the best solution then keeping them as they are now which is basicly two faced diplomats with their own agenda who create havok elsewhere to shift view from them to someone else. When it is really them who are responsible in the end

    Well sadly the UAE to my knowledge does not fund terrorism. They are way too powerful to be touched, and they know their own powers. Saudi is democratizing VERY SLOWLY, as did Qatar, Kuwait, Bahrain, things are changing quite slowly. The Saudi's are going to be overthrown by their own populations, so just wait a see. The thing is quite simple the US touching Saudi soil in aggression= Islamic world against the US. Simple as that, and the US doesn’t want that.
     
  8. DeeCee Valued Senior Member

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    Changing UAE & Saudi into Democracies
    LoL
    Why would you want to do such a thing.

    No.
    They fulfill many other functions.
    Whats more they're our friends!
    America likes them just as they are.
    Dee Cee
     
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    America likes them just as they are.


    That's true, for all their faults the Saudi's are big US allies. Since 1935 the alliance btwn Saudi and the US predate that of the UK and the US, and is arguably more important. The alliance for the US has worked VERY well. The Saudi's are the only force in the region who can reign in Islamic extremism; they are not that extremist compared to the Arabian alternatives. It's the best we can get in the West. Democracy in these regions is not what the US wants, and it is not in our best interests.
     
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    Saddam Hussien and Manuel Noriega were Reagans "fair haired boys" in the 1980's and LQQK what happened to them when they stopped dancing to the Whitehouse fiddler?

    The US' hypocracy is that it was Rumsfeld that went over to Iraq and offered Saddam chemical weapons to use on Iran in the 1980's.

    Kim Jung II, in Korea, is the smartest dude. He gave the Bush administration the extended middle finnger and is scurrying around putting together a half dozen "dirty" nukes as he has tea with China dicussing (what else) the "Price of Tea" in China!

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    Iran (now surrounded by US base's in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan) can learn from Iraq that destroyed surface-to-surface IRBM missiles as a sign of compliance to the UN's resolutions as Bush double crossed him and attacked anyway as he had planned from early in 2000.

    Korea, could be well to heed Saddam's warning: "The lying, cheating, NeoCon rats aren't to be trusted" (or was that was that what John Kerry said about the Bush NeoCon Mafia over an open mikw last month?

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