So then why doesn't everyone declare their institution to be a church so they can say whatever crazy horseshit they like and not have to pay taxes? Why can't Charlie Hebdo be a religion too, based on a divine creator who enjoys offensive cartoons and therefore made it physically possible to draw them? Seems to me you're still expected to pray at the feet of one of the established gods, or else have massive legal teams and influential power brokers in Hollywood like the Scientologists. The examples you cite don't cut it, because the Heaven's Gate religion would have been closed down if authorities had known what they were preaching. Established religions are allowed to openly demonize non-adherents and promote ideas like ignoring all Earthly responsibilities while waiting for God to come down and clean up their stool for them, all without penalty as I'm sure you're aware. I want to see more examples of non-conventional religions being allowed the same degree of leeway, being allowed to tell their followers to avoid food or medical treatment and getting away with it. The problem is that if I tell people to do something recklessly irresponsible and it's not in the name of Jesus, Mohammed, Moses or Xenu, my government is highly likely to deem my claims of religious conviction to be either fraud or deserving of psychiatric intervention. Anyhow my point is that the separation of church and state should no longer be accepted as a defense for preaching harmful bullcrap, such as the nonsense that ultimately encourages radicalized Muslims to employ violence against those who offend them. Temples aren't autonomous territories; you don't stop being a human being and a citizen of your society the moment you step inside. Hear, hear. Great, so then there's no need to teach children about hell until they're of an age where they can think about it critically for themselves and challenge the authorities who attempt to abuse them with it. No, I mean a perpetually lagging centrally-planned economy and a bloated bureaucracy that attempts to intrusively steer the nation's culture and way of life. Looks like no one has yet figured out where the Paris ghettos fit into that picture, but I'm sure they've got some plan for resolving it without humiliating themselves in front of ze Americans. So then there should be an end to religious incitement altogether, and all the temples engaging in it to even the slightest degree should be shut down instead of slapped on the wrist. It should be outright criminal to traumatize children and stifle dissent through threats of violence and eternal punishment, or to intentionally deprive them of chances to integrate into the society at large. We need to start monitoring and controlling the messages coming from religious institutions, or else we have no business controlling secular institutions either.