Chemical evolution:

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  1. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Your record shows that any participation in any debate/conversation/argument with you is impossible.
    My condolences in return my old friend.
     
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  3. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    And you are wrong in that assertion.

    Self-organization

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    Self-organization, also called (in the social sciences) spontaneous order, is a process where some form of overall order arises from local interactions between parts of an initially disordered system. The process can be spontaneous when sufficient energy is available, not needing control by any external agent. It is often triggered by seemingly random
    fluctuations, amplified by positive feedback. The resulting organization is wholly decentralized, distributed over all the components of the system. As such, the organization is typically robust and able to survive or self-repair substantial perturbation. Chaos theory discusses self-organization in terms of islands of predictability in a sea of chaotic unpredictability. [/quote]
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-organization#
     
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    https://www.nature.com/subjects/ori...gin of life,led to early replicator molecules.

    Chemical origin of life
    The chemical origin of life refers to the conditions that might have existed and therefore promoted the first replicating life forms. It considers the physical and chemical reactions that could have led to early replicator molecules.

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  7. dumbest man on earth Real Eyes Realize Real Lies Valued Senior Member

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    Please provide evidence supporting your claim that I am "wrong in that assertion".
     
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  8. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    See above.

    Everything in our life has only mathematical patterns.
    How can it be that mathematics, being after all a product of human thought which is independent of experience, is so admirably appropriate to the objects of reality?
    Albert Einstein…
    https://medium.com/however-mathemat...fe-has-only-mathematical-patterns-504a0e87ab3
     
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  9. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Only 7 minutes long and very simply put.......
     
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  10. dumbest man on earth Real Eyes Realize Real Lies Valued Senior Member

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    There is nothing to "See above" that supports your claim that I am "wrong in that assertion".
    Like paddoboy, you are simply Trolling, Write4U,
     
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    Trolling meaning refuting your mystical inferences.


    https://socratic.org/questions/is-t...e theory of,develop into different life forms.

    Is there a connection between abiogenesis and evolution?
    Biology Origin of Life on Earth Abiogenesis
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    Alan P.
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    Abiogenesis is the theory of how life could develop from non-living materials. Evolution is the theory of how existing life could develop into different life forms.

    Explanation:
    Both abiogenesis and evolution deal with the development of new life forms. The difference is in the starting conditions.

     
  12. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Self-organization is all you need to know.
    OK, see #125.
     
  13. dumbest man on earth Real Eyes Realize Real Lies Valued Senior Member

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    And of course you will refuse to provide any Direct Quotes of any Posts authored by me making any "mystical inferences".
    Again, paddoboy, you are simply Trolling...Casting Aspersions...your usual MO.
     
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    I have supplied all quotes. and again, I'll let records and our peers speak for anything else.

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    Take it easy old friend!!
     
  15. dumbest man on earth Real Eyes Realize Real Lies Valued Senior Member

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    My Post #62 : "If you understand abiogenesis so clearly, then why are you compelled to introduce "evolution" into the equation?
    You seem to be conflating an unexplained hypothesis, abiogenesis - life from non-life, and an actual scientific theory that begins with the premise that life already exists."

    Would you please point out the "mystical inferences" in my Post #62 quoted above?
    Would you please reference the Post #'s where you "supplied all quotes"?

    My Post #62 is the only Post I made in this Thread until you began TROLLING me with your Post #70 where you Cast Aspersions by stating : "In actual fact, it appears to be you...conflating the unsupported myth of ID with the logic of extrapolation back to the obvious...Abiogenesis."

    ???
    Shakes Head
     
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  16. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    I didn't say that. I understand it enough along with other science to realise its the only scientific explanation for the emergence of life. Conflating again dmoe?
    This thread is entitled "chemical evolution.
    As per my link, I'm pointing out an obvious connection and refuting your silly conflation.
    Already done...
    And I was correct and spot on, but if you believe I am trolling

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    report me.
     
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    dmoe - one doesn't have to believe the bible as Holy Writ to realize there are wise words here and there in it. Most apt here at SF and concerning one inveterate slanderer/troll in particular: Proverbs 29:9
     
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  18. dumbest man on earth Real Eyes Realize Real Lies Valued Senior Member

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    ...shakes head more...???

    My Post #62 was directed at Write4U, in response to his Post #60 - YOU KNOW THIS

    Your Post #133 is complete nonsense - YOU KNOW THIS

    You are simply TROLLING -YOU KNOW THIS
     
  19. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    As per the links given and ignoring the provocative nonsense....
    The chemical evolution of life, via Abiogenesis, is the only scientific answer we have.
    We though are still not fully familiar with the exact pathway, but that does not invalidate the fact that Abiogenesis, [either locally inspired or Panspermia] is the only scientific answer.
    Any hopeful, heart warming, myth of some form of ID, is just that and totally without scientific support or merit.
    The adoration shown towards James Tour and the letters after his name, is offset by no other then his own questionable, silly statements [as already shown] of telling his "congregation, presumably to keep the faith so to speak] that even if any forthcoming evidence was discovered, supporting Abiogenesis, it would not shift him and his literal devotion to the bible and all that it claims.
    That's about the state of play at this time.
     
  20. dumbest man on earth Real Eyes Realize Real Lies Valued Senior Member

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    ...hmm...
    yeah, shakes head...
     
  21. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Sure there are! But are they divinely inspired words?

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    And that alone does not validate in anyone's language, a book written in an obscure age by obscure individuals, inspired by some magical deity, or whatever.
     
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    There you go, Paul, er...paddoboy
     
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  23. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Another 14.5 minutes long video.......
    How did life begin? Abiogenesis. Origin of life from nonliving matter.
     

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