China Is Engineering Genius Babies

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  1. ChinaRising Registered Member

    It is important that the world take us seriously. Now is the time to make your intentions known as to whether you wish to be our ally or enemy.

    China Is Engineering Genius Babies

    American Renaissance

    Posted on March 20, 2013
    Aleks Eror, Vice, March 15, 2013

    {snip} While Western civilization chokes on its own gluttony like a latter-day Marlon Brando, China continues to buy up American debt and lock away the world’s natural resources. But now, not content to simply laugh and make jerk-off signs as they pass us on the geopolitical highway, they’ve also developed a state-endorsed genetic-engineering project.

    At BGI Shenzhen, scientists have collected DNA samples from 2,000 of the world’s smartest people and are sequencing their entire genomes in an attempt to identify the alleles which determine human intelligence. Apparently they’re not far from finding them, and when they do, embryo screening will allow parents to pick their brightest zygote and potentially bump up every generation’s intelligence by five to 15 IQ points. {snip}

    Geoffrey Miller, an evolutionary psychologist and lecturer at NYU, is one of the 2,000 braniacs who contributed their DNA.


    VICE: Hey, Geoffrey. Does China have a history of eugenics?

    Geoffrey Miller: As soon as Deng Xiaoping took power in the late 70s, he took the whole focus of the Chinese government from trying to manage the economy, to trying to manage the quality and quantity of people. In the 90s, they started to do widespread prenatal testing for birth defects with ultrasound, and more recently, they’ve spent a lot of money researching human genetics to figure out which genes make people smarter.

    What do you know about BGI Shenzhen?

    It’s the biggest genetic research center in China, and I think the biggest in the world, by a considerable margin. They’re not just doing human genetics; BGI is also doing lots of plant genetics, animal genetics, anything that’s economically relevant or scientifically interesting.

    Are you in touch with them?

    I just got an email a couple of days ago saying that they’d almost finished doing the sequencing for the BGI Cognitive Genetics Project, the one I gave my genetics to, and that the results would be available soon.

    What was their selection process?

    They seem mostly interested in people of Chinese and European descent. They’re basically recruiting through a scientific conference, through word of mouth. You have to provide some evidence that you’re as smart as you say you are. You have to send your complete CV, publications you’ve produced, standardized-test scores, where you went to college… stuff like that.

    How will the research be applied?

    Once you’ve got that information and a fertilized egg that’s divided into a few cells, you can sample one of the cells to figure out the expected intelligence if it’s implanted and becomes a person.

    What does that mean in human language?

    Any given couple could potentially have several eggs fertilized in the lab with the dad’s sperm and the mom’s eggs. Then you can test multiple embryos and analyze which one’s going to be the smartest. That kid would belong to that couple as if they had it naturally, but it would be the smartest a couple would be able to produce if they had 100 kids. It’s not genetic engineering or adding new genes, it’s the genes that couples already have.


    When do you think the embryo analysis might be implemented on a large scale?

    Actual use of the technology to do embryo screening might take five to ten years, but it could be just a few years. It depends on how motivated they are.

    Could this whole process be repeated with other characteristics, like physical appearance?

    Absolutely. In fact, almost any trait other than intelligence would be easier to do. We know that intelligence depends on lots of genes while physical traits—like hair or eye color—only depend on a few genes. Things like body shape would be easier to do, physical attractiveness would be pretty complicated, personality traits might be a little simpler than intelligence—how hard working somebody is, how impulsive, how politically liberal or conservative they are would be easier. How religious you are—that’s definitely influenced by genes to some degree.

    Shit. How does Western research in genetics compare to China’s?

    We’re pretty far behind. We have the same technical capabilities, the same statistical capabilities to analyze the data, but they’re collecting the data on a much larger scale and seem to be capable of transforming the scientific findings into government policy and consumer genetic testing much more easily than we are. Technically and scientifically we could be doing this, but we’re not.

    Why not?

    We have ideological biases that say, “Well, this could be troubling, we shouldn’t be meddling with nature, we shouldn’t be meddling with God.” I just attended a debate in New York a few weeks ago about whether or not we should outlaw genetic engineering in babies and the audience was pretty split. In China, 95 percent of an audience would say, “Obviously you should make babies genetically healthier, happier, and brighter!” There’s a big cultural difference.

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  3. youreyes amorphous ocean Valued Senior Member

    what´s with ¨snip¨?

    and genetically engineering a society, has not gotten anyone better off yet.
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  5. kwhilborn Banned Banned


    Maybe China can breed some compassion into their people.

    Watch as this two year old is run over by two different trucks, and is ignored by 18 people passing by.

    In my country this would be considered inhuman and any one of those wandering past could be arrested for ignoring the child.

    NOTE: This child died two weeks after this, and is a sad video to watch. Basically a two year old is run over by a truck, and then everyone leaves kid bleeding in street while they walk around. Then ANOTHER truck drives over the kid. 18 people walk over and around the child. I cannot imagine a culture this cruel anywhere.

    I have not felt the same about this society since I saw this over a year ago. How the life of a child can be held in such disregard.



    Now brag about China superiority all you like, but these people in video are not human.

    Chinese couples are allowed 1 child. Maybe that is one too many.

    I do not have problem with chinese born here, and my own children are half asian, but what kind of society does this.

    Maybe a genius might stop and help the child, but should it really take one?

    NOTE: I am not being racist. I am fine with Chinese people. I am upset with the culture (not race) that pervades areas that allows things like this to occur.
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  7. ChinaRising Registered Member

    No one besides China has ever tried, so you can't make that judgment. You are thinking about all those Hollywood shows and movies that showed that it failed, but those are fiction.

    Genetic quality is very important to China. For example, while Chinese females are encouraged to bring top Caucasian male scientists and engineers to China by marrying them, they are forbidden from actually producing offspring with the White husbands to ensure that China's gene pool is not reduced in quality by mixing with Caucasians. Ethnically mixed breeding is illegal in China.

    So, you will see in the next twenty years that China will evolve into a new superior species and then spread out throughout the Milky Way Galaxy.
  8. ChinaRising Registered Member

    You are referring to genetic psychopathology: the genetic trait of criminality. Yes, those individuals who did not help the child were genetic psychopaths. We are in the process of trying to get rid of all psychopathology genes in China; criminals are forbidden from reproducing, for example. We are breeding for higher levels of in-group altruism and higher levels of conscientiousness. This will result in no more videos like the one you posted.
  9. ChinaRising Registered Member

    Also, regarding those 18 individuals who did not help the child, I am pushing for their removal from China. I don't believe in wasting resources imprisoning, euthanizing, or sterilizing criminals; the efficient action to take is to simply send them to the West permanently and strip them of their citizenship.
  10. kwhilborn Banned Banned

    I agree it will be nice if you can stop breeding psychpaths.

    I won't hold my breath, as your own ramblings are obviously filled with some pre-celebratory gloating, and what could be contrived as hate propaganda.

    You seem to be acting as if China is the first to Genetically Engineer. Not only that, but you are imposing yourself into an imagined future where it has already succeeded.

    Let me tell you something.


    I think you should go to your medicine cabinet and take all your meds you've been prescribed for whatever condition seems to ail you.

    I do not mean to be rude, but you are obviously totally bonkers, and this thread will likely follow your last into the cesspool.

    I don't mind telling you off, but part of me thinks you cannot comprehend reality much.


    Maybe one day China will have some smart people, but who are going to populate their child labor camps. This has not yet occurred, and I assure you China will have competition in this.

    I am sure China has a history rich with Chinese geniuses... Oh wait.. No. They don't

    China makes all the crap we do not wish to bother making. To increase our standards of living.

    p.s. Aren't they a bunch of communists over there? Yeah.. I can see why you are living in the future, because your present sucks bad.
  11. ChinaRising Registered Member

    I don't understand what you are saying.

    But, it does not matter; we will eventually evolve away from the use of sound waves for communication and instead use binary messages encoded in electromagnetic energy; this way, we can communicate in space where there is no air. Telepathy is not magic: it's simply communicating via EMR.
  12. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

    Then I'm sure they regret not aborting you.
  13. kwhilborn Banned Banned

    I'd be happy if they evolved past being psychopathic as you said three posts ago.

    But I remind you. You are only living in an imagined future. You are still crazy now.
  14. ChinaRising Registered Member

    From your perspective, only time will tell.

    I'm just trying to create an alliance with the Caucasians to avoid a future war in which you would loose. The way things are going now, it appears that only China will survive the coming evolutionary bottle-neck; this means: China inherits the whole world. Just look at the trends: all the Arabs will kill each other off in civil wars; India will implode from over-population, famine, and disease; Japan has completely stopped reproducing and now just purchase pet robots; Ashkenazi Jews mostly marry outside their community now and will also melt away into the larger Caucasian population; Africa is 50% infested with HIV and have civil wars every few months and also are starving; and Caucasians are about to go the way of the South African Whites due to an extremely hostile immigration population of Blacks, Mestizos, and Muslims.

    So, really, the world is all by itself preparing their lands for China to inherit simply by becoming vacant all at their own hands. If you want to refer to all this as "crazy," you do so at your own peril.
  15. Twelve Registered Senior Member

    You recently posted in the thread "The Cesspool" that "... a ratio of more men to women is maintained so that women have more choices and can pick the better male to mate with".
    I thought that the main reason was that most of Chinese families prefer a boy for working in the country, and that was the main reason that they used to give girls to Western adoptive families. Could you tell anything about this issue? Will still Chinese girls be given for adoption?
  16. kwhilborn Banned Banned

    @ Twelve,

    Maybe they are trying to engineer Homosexuality

    @ Chinarising,

    Chinese may emigrate outwards from China, but its a heck of a swim to my country.
  17. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

    We also have people like this.
    People who would run over a dying child in the rush to earn an extra dollar.
    We call them Bankers.

    @ Kwhill
    Why do you watch such depressing videos?
    Here's one to cheer you up.


    Heh Heh

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  18. ChinaRising Registered Member

    Homosexuals are not allowed to reproduce in China (lesbians, bisexuals, hermaphrodites, or homosexual men contributing their sperm to any egg). Also, the promotion of homosexual culture is illegal, similar to how Putin just enacted in Russia: he signed a Bill banning any public promotion of homosexuality.
  19. ChinaRising Registered Member

    The Chinese government tolerates the selective abortion of females because of the eugenic effect mentioned above.
  20. andy1033 Truth Seeker Valued Senior Member

    Western ideas on this is to make everyone the same, so society just functions. Nato is already being run from underground bases, and nato already have techs way beyond anyones imaginations.

    So although i would suspect that china is doing loads, do not think that nato also are not doing stuff. Just that you never hear about it.

    The thing about nato, is they are good at finding kids in schools that stand out and they get boosted with techs too. So do not think that what china is doing is unique.

    On eugenics stuff, i am sure there is plenty of stuff we as a public do not know. Plus the idea of eugenics does probably work, but the public are given a very simplified version of it. But you can be sure that nato countries have too done loads of work on this, like all competing countries.

    China has no chance of taking over west today as nato nwo stuff is already here, and nato countries are being run from underground bases. China missed the boat if it wanted to be global leader. Maybe they will play a massive part in the future with there country and ideas, but they have no chance of taking over nato.
  21. ChinaRising Registered Member

    All of the world is in a dysgenic trend, except for China.
  22. ChinaRising Registered Member

    According to Professor Richard Lynn in the Occidental Quarterly:

    Why China is the Future

    In 1994 China passed the Eugenic Law. All pregnant women were required to undergo embryo screening and abort fetuses with genetic disorders. This was a follow-up to the famous one-child policy introduced in 1979 that brought the birth rate down to 1.9 per woman.

    Attitudes of elites and those who work in the relevant fields are likely to determine what technologies are accepted and how liberally they’ll be used. A survey was conducted between 1994 and 1996 asking geneticists and physicians around the world whether they agreed with the statement “An important goal of genetic counseling is to reduce the number of deleterious genes in the population.”


    Percentage of Geneticists and Physicians Agreeing with Eugenic Goals












    In addition to the negative attitudes of the elites towards anything eugenic, other reasons we can expect these ideas not to win fast acceptance in the West are the value placed on individual rights, democracy, and the existence of low IQ minorities who would be disproportionately affected by any measures aimed at improving the genetic quality of the population. While many countries in the third world might feel positively about eugenic measures, the attitudes in China are the most favorable and when that is combined with the advantages of an authoritarian government, a lack of dysgenic immigration, and a high IQ starting point it’s not hard to believe that the Chinese will continue to be the most enthusiastic and efficient users of biotechnology.

    So how will this nation of a billion people treat the rest of the world after it’s raised its IQ to 150+? Lynn might be too optimistic here. He believes the Chinese will colonize the world and try to improve the IQs and living standards of their subjects. The Europeans will be kept around for their biological uniqueness and admired for their cultural accomplishments, the way that the Romans subjugated the Greeks but appreciated their philosophy and art. If the Chinese decide that the Europeans should be preserved they’d be doing more for them than whites are currently doing for themselves. A global eugenic superstate led by by the Chinese will be the “end of history.”

    Lynn’s forecasts the next 100 years with a stone-cold detachment. The first government to utilize the power of biotechnology will take over the world. Thanks to third world immigration and egalitarianism, the decline of the West seems inevitable and eugenic policies unlikely. The future of humanity being in the hands of the dictators in Beijing may not be the most comforting idea in the world, but at least the reader of Eugenics may be convinced that intelligence and civilization will continue somewhere.
  23. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

    God will smite China.

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