Climate Change Control Using Biology

Discussion in 'Biology & Genetics' started by Write4U, Jul 21, 2020.

  1. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Seems to me that any mineral sequestration of CO2 would be limited to a one time uptake and saturation event.

    IMO, an active continual CO2 scrubber can only be found in biology, such as trees which use CO2 for growth, affording a continual uptake of CO2 over many years. Hence the "value" of maintaining healthy forests.

    But if you want the most efficient CO2 scrubbing system, soil conditioner, low maintenance biological cash crop, which is ten times more efficient than trees, check out the proven value of the industrial (and medicinal) Cannabis plant. This remarkable plant is able to sequester as much CO2 from the air and soil from one acre of Industrial Hemp, than 10 acres of trees (of any kind)!!!

    The Role of Industrial Hemp in Carbon Farming
    https://hemp-copenhagen.com/images/Hemp-cph-Carbon-sink.pdf

    Industrial Hemp, Plants

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    Protein: 31.56 g, Dietary fiber: 4.0 g

    Uses;
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemp[/quote]
     
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  3. The_One Banned Banned

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    What's the plant called..?
     
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  5. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    The plant itself ;
    Part of a series on Cannabis

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemp

    Note that one of the main reasons why it is such a wonderful CO2 scrubber is the speed with which it grows. Hemp recovers and fixes enormous amount of CO2
     
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  7. The_One Banned Banned

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    Ohhh. Can-ab-is!
     
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  8. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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  9. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    currently
    in the most densely forested areas which are the last remaining Forrest large scale carbon sinks in the world
    there is money to be made by burning it down
    and...
    that money is made by dirt poor people whom have no infrastructure and are governed mostly by corrupt authority
     
  10. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, tragically. What's worse is that there is actually more money to be made in growing, harvesting and manufacturing industrial hemp products.

    What is a mystery to me is that it is a known fact that Hemp crops actually yield much more usable industrial products than wood forests and at an extremely fast growth rate and crop turnover, as opposed to the very slow growth rate of trees. Yet the vested powers resist opening the US to industrial hemp farming, a very short sighted strategy , IMO.

    Keep the remaining mature tree forests and replace the already harvested forests with Hemp, a product that does not require any sophisticated growth strategies and will thrive even in poor soils.

    Everyone benefits. Small farmers can create combines and cultivate large and varied areas with different strains to fill specific market requirements and negotiate for favorable profit structures.
     
  11. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    <-------oxygen consumer living surrounded by oxygen producers

    fyi
    The Hemp Farming Act of 2018 was a proposed law to remove hemp (defined as cannabis with less than 0.3% THC) from Schedule I controlled substances and making it an ordinary agricultural commodity. Its provisions were incorporated in the 2018 United States farm bill that became law on December 20, 2018.
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    and
    Hemp farming is good for the soil.
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    personally
    I crawled around on my hands and knees 29 years ago and planted 1498 trees and shrubs on my small acreage.....and, now, i have a small forest........I like shade and birdsong.................also good for the soil
    First I surveyed the land, studied it's history, got the state ag. dept to analyse the soil .and, in consultation with the dnr forester, laid out a planting plan, ordered the trees, then mowed the grass really short where I intended to plant, then rototilled deep, blending in peat ag.lime and compost--planting complete--and then(next 2 years)----we had a drought, so I had to water all those poor little thirsty trees 4 days a week.....oh, yeh, and weeding around the trees until they were big enough.........(well worth the effort)

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    imho the 3% rule is a political act of rampant idiocy
    (our legislators may all be bullgoose loonie insane?)
     
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  12. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    Not all of them. These guys https://republicans-agriculture.house.gov plus the Blue Dog "leadership", would have to be overpowered somehow, of course. As would the current Republican administration.
    Sample problem: https://www.votehemp.com/hemp-news/texas-farmers-see-new-source-of-green-in-legal-hemp/
    The AOC wing of the Democratic Party would be on your side of that one, as it has been for decades now.
    Elections have consequences. When bad guys win, bad things happen.

    btw: It's the .3% rule you are objecting to, I assume.
    A proposed 3% rule did exist, but was killed at birth with prejudice, albeit informally (never on the record) by the current Republican administration, the entire Republican Congress, and the entire Blue Dog faction of the Democratic Party (which includes some members of the House Agricultural Committee, the formulator of all such rules). The hemp guys engaged in political advocacy are currently lobbying for a relaxation to 1%. If the Dems can take control of the Senate as well as the House they have a chance - some of the Blue Dogs are movable (such as the chairman of the House Agriculture committee), some of the Republicans are vulnerable to discontent from agricultural interests, and all of the Republicans can be bribed.
     
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  13. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    makes fantastic clothing

    between hemp and coconut fibers and silk the world doenst need plastic clothes made from dirty petroleum oil(they can save that for circuit boards for new cellphones for the Waring[wall st] savages)
     
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  14. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    Republican cotton farmer slave traders ...

    what are they doing now ?
    more of the same ?
    no surprises

    did the republican party get created from slave owners ?

    money 1st
    themselves 1st & 2nd
    ideology 2nd & 3rd
    rich people 3rd & 4th
    everyone else around 10th place

    no surprises
    nothing has changed

    prior to the reality of peak oil & climate change the idea of making clothes from dirtyold worthles waste oil was probably helcion days for them.

    things have changed somewhat with modern science
    have they ?
    doesn't look like it
    though palm-kernal seems to have taken off with a roar all be it exclusively at the cost of wild jungle habitat and endangered plants & animals
    equally it would be fair to state that COVID_19 has been caused by humans destroying jungle habitats
    (human encroachment on endangered species)

    is big oil & the Republican party saving the USA from covid_19 ?
    absolutely not
    they appear to be going in the opposite direction
     
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  15. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Nope. Back in the day the democrats were the racists. That didn't change until the 1960's or so. David Duke (KKK Grand Wizard or something like that) was a democrat until the parties switched sides, then switched over to republican. Once he switched over to the GOP he handily won elected office with his "white purity" message.
     
  16. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    c.indica, c. sativa, or c. ruderalis?
     
  17. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    The modern Republican Party is a coalition of its long time base in the prosperous capitalists of American business with a newly amenable population of fundamentalist Christians and disaffected heirs of the Confederacy.

    Basically, around 1964 the KKK switched Parties in national campaigns - that way the Republicans could win national elections again.
     
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  18. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    This may be of interest in relation to climate change.

    Glacier Ice Worms

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    Although a glacier might not strike you as the best place to call home, the ice worms of the Pacific coast of North America would have it no other way. They are obligate inhabitants of glacier ice (they cannot live anywhere else). In fact, their bodies are so specifically adapted to this cold, harsh environment that they “melt” at room temperature due to liquefaction of their cell membranes.

    https://www.nps.gov/subjects/geology/learnglaciericeworms.htm
     
  19. Dennis Tate Valued Senior Member

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    Interesting!!!!!

    There is certainly no obvious contradiction with this theory.




    Carbon Farming: Harnessing The Power of The Soil

    or with.....




    Soil carbon -- Putting carbon back where it belongs -- In the Earth | Tony Lovell | TEDxDubbo
     
  20. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    I am not sure about the current restrictions on Hemp farming in view of the relaxed restriction on marijuana in general.
    But it is high time that industrial Cannabis becomes a major component of productive an environmentally friendly agriculture.

    INDUSTRIAL HEMP PRODUCTION IN MICHIGAN
    https://www.canr.msu.edu/hemp/uploads/files/industrialhempinfosheet_2019-05-24.pdf
     
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  21. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    would be good to see some real science on things like algae CO2 exchanges
    then compared against other short cycle & long cycle stuff
     
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  22. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Algae might be a secret weapon to combatting climate change

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    Not just good wrapped around your sushi.
    https://qz.com/1718988/algae-might-be-a-secret-weapon-to-combatting-climate-change/
     
  23. Dennis Tate Valued Senior Member

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    Just about the only relevant comment that I can make on that is that I know of family and friends who have nothing but good things to say about CBD oil which can be produced from a type of hemp that has zero...... or nearly zero THC left in the plants.

    I assume that the only reason for governments to restrict the types of hemp that have zero or nearly zero THC would be because they could be used to disguise plants that have a high level of THC?
     

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