Climate change Sea Ice Melt Glacia melt the developing science

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  1. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    Many were.
    And will be - the short-term profits from fire-cleared rain forest land are large enough to finance major arson campaigns. This has been a problem for decades, made worse recently by bad governance.

    Meanwhile, that part of the world includes major regions of lighting strike, so as the rain forest is modified to increase its vulnerability to fire the dry seasons will feature plenty of ignition sources.
     
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  3. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    amazon fires are lit annually by people to burn away native Forrest to graze cattle

    what aerial photography is currently documenting is that the majority of the fires are in areas where forests are being logged then burnt to clear land.

    scientific fact shown by aerial photography
    are ...
    there is no suggestion that they will stop setting fire to the amazon

    i am skeptical at what the people sent in to fight the fires can achieve.
    given they are likely to be improperly equipped and with probably no fire fighting training

    aside from policing the people lighting the fires
    they are equally likely to become victims of the fires.

    they need heavy machinery and drones to over sea the process

    i very much doubt despite billions of dollars that has been donated very little much if any has been spent on developing systems and buying heavy equipment that can fight Forest the fires.

    This is why i think it is critical to have international assistance to develop proper over sight systems engaging heavy air craft water drops and fast moving expensive
    bulldozers and specially equipped graders which wont just result in the driver being burnt to death and the machine being burnt out or trapped in the fire.

    which when happens in logged areas allows the fire to start and take hold
     
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  5. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    watch the video, you can clearly see it is a logged area that is on fire
    if the forest had not been selectively logged to allow air passage and ground fuel, lighting strikes would not be as big of an issue
    however, as it drys it is likely to burn even more(exponential fire growth)

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9782396/amazon-rainforest-fires-brazil-nasa-picture-news/



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  7. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    it helps to have a margin of error
    because you never know when these type of things can happen

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    what is not mentioned is that ash that falls of ice then attracts heat and melts the snow very fast.
    additionally landing on glaciers attracts heat and melts the glaciers very very fast.
     
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  8. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    https://climate.nasa.gov/news/712/how-does-debris-influence-glaciers/

     
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  10. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    i love Greta
    she is smart(very smart) non conventional and says it like it is.
    i am a bit annoyed at how all the troll media editors cut edit screen shots of her face in a angry expresion as the cover layer to their video feeds of her.
    i think that is climate change denier tin-foil hat ass kissing
    as well as bully culture normalization

    (it highlights a misogynistic sub-culture)
    i do worry about the incels and psychiatric patients who may try and attack her for her celebrity status and for being a women and a young women.

    ... sea-level rise ... polluting fresh water supply's (algae, bacteria, etc ecoli sewage run off...)
    sea water moving into fresh water under ground aquifers.
    i think this needs urgent attention to re-calibrate time lines for water shortages.
     
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    I like her as well. She seems to be quite effective without speaking of wingnuts, tinfoil hats, the tribe, bandahar, etc.
     
  12. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    That is among the effects of the increased wildfires from AGW - another positive feedback (so far, the discovered feedbacks have been disproportionately positive - bad luck).
    It is also a side effect of rapid melting from AGW - the soot and dirt trapped in the ice over hundreds or thousands of years concentrates at the surface as it is left behind.
     
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  13. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    this would be an exponential solar collection factor to heating melt cause i would imagine.
    there is a lot of people in positions of financial and political power whom probably want to keep "ash" out of the news to avoid the obvious human health issues and avoid having those linked to sea level rise which would draw in home recognition of alarming factors of real world scientific issues.

    i was going to post something new but it slipped my mind ...

    are we currently at 4 times the Co2 of the no ice left on the planet stage ?

    i have an immunology question i have forgotten about melting viruses and bacteria that may have been dormant for 20,000 years etc...

    north America looks set to get arctic winds.(this will be interesting)
     
  14. Beaconator Registered Senior Member

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    Since the discovery of science, science has been clouded with questions.

    Essentially the only questions that have been answered by science has been.

    1. Force =mass×acceleration

    2. Thermodynamics is beyond our control

    3. Wheels roll

    4. Chemical reactions occur

    5. Research and hypothesis mean approximately the same thing.

    6. Plants were here before us.

    7. Popular ideas are stupid

    8. Ingenious solutions become implimented
     
  15. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    how do you run a modern city of 10 million people that is 55 meters below sea level ?

    floating citys of the future ... ?
     
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  19. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    Mythological truth serves the light of knowledge.
     
  20. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    The illiteracy of the modern rightwing conservative pervades modern political discussion at all levels.
    You forgot about electricity, engineering, and evolution. Just to pick a couple from the Es in the schoolroom encyclopedia.
     
  21. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    I would like to think this is a joke, but sadly I fear it is not.
     
  22. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    trolling the intellectual theme to kill the thread subject...

    while attempting to install narcissistic dogma ...

    just ignore it
     
  23. spidergoat Liddle' Dick Tater Valued Senior Member

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    The Scripps researcher stressed that there was no link between this event and climate change. Satellite data since the 1990s has shown that Amery is roughly in balance with its surroundings, despite experiencing strong surface melt in summer.

    So... Not an example of global warming.
     

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