Copernican Heresy

Discussion in 'Astronomy, Exobiology, & Cosmology' started by ThazzarBaal, Feb 8, 2023.

  1. ThazzarBaal Registered Senior Member

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    That would not qualify as a subjective truth at all. Maybe a hallucination or delusion or belief (if/ believed). I like peach milkshakes. My favorite colors are pink and blue. Those are subjective truth's.

    My point is it was accepted. Truth is important like that. Im not sure when the church officially adopted Copernican views.. If something is true it's true. There are quite a few old paradigms that have changed over time.. The church might call the change of mind repentance. That's how I view it anyway. We repent or change once we understand something to be true or truer than our older mindsets. Natural progression is the premise.
     
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  3. ThazzarBaal Registered Senior Member

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    Being in a position like the church, who are there as record keepeers, teach according to what has been found to be true. Honoring God in spirit and truth is what's expected from them. That's fundamental to the faith. Truth isn't limited to the subjective but also carries over into the objective broadly. Narrow subjective truths are applied per person, and the broader scope of objective reality/truth are no less vital to the task. That's what I gather from the faith.

    I'm sure they refrain from making declarations of truth based on little evidence, which is likely why it can take them so long to do so. The position they have on earth requires it.
     
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  5. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    Well no one could accuse them of being quick, that's for sure.

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  7. ThazzarBaal Registered Senior Member

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    I'll agree.
     
  8. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah, except it's nothing to do with "truth".

    And yet the basic premise of the church is the promotion of something that is NOT (by any means) objectively true.

    Given that that's what they're founded on then your "sureness" is fundamentally flawed.
     
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    Are we taking an opposite position then? I know people who ... Umm, play the role. In any case, the premise of the church isn't to spread or adhere to lies or deciet.
     
  10. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Possibly not. But it's certainly the premise to spread unsupported belief (as opposed to objective truth).
     
  11. ThazzarBaal Registered Senior Member

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    No, it's supported but faith is also their business.
     
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  12. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    You mean their into politics?
     
  13. ThazzarBaal Registered Senior Member

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    Naturally ... But that's life across the board.
     
  14. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Hearsay and anecdote don't count as "support".
     
  15. ThazzarBaal Registered Senior Member

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    I suppose we view support different.
     
  16. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Yup. I'm interested in "truth" (supportable facts) and you're vested in your belief.
     
  17. ThazzarBaal Registered Senior Member

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    A few of them yes. Beliefs like evolutionary progress, human adaptation, and black hole bound ... Sun and all. Beyond that, I anticipate more life and evolutionary processes. Beliefs I know, but mostly validated.
     
  18. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Really?
    Which particular religious beliefs are validated?
     
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    Should I be worried, for some scientific bias, that religion is to be an advocate for dumbness?

    There are many documentaries and I've indulged in more than a few.
    However, I thought this 2 hr was fitting enough for the...
     
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    Hoho, him again!

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    Sungenis is a nutcase, coming at no 1186 in the Encyclopedia of American Loons: https://americanloons.blogspot.com/search?q=sungenis
     
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    ?? Sungenis is here?
     
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