Cops in Louisiana no longer need warrants!

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  1. truth Registered Senior Member

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    I got a shiver down my spine when I read this and it should scare the crap out of you too! In Louisana, police can now search your home and arrest you without a warrant, but they claim that they will not abuse that power!!! Where is that puking smilie when you need it?!?!

    Court Opens Door To Searches Without Warrants
    http://www.theneworleanschannel.com/news/2953483/detail.html
    NEW ORLEANS -- It's a groundbreaking court decision that legal experts say will affect everyone: Police officers in Louisiana no longer need a search or arrest warrant to conduct a brief search of your home or business.

    Leaders in law enforcement say it will provide safety to officers, but others argue it's a privilege that could be abused.

    The decision was made by the New Orleans-based 5th Circuit Court of Appeals. Two dissenting judges called it the "road to Hell."

    The ruiling stems from a lawsuit filed in Denham Springs in 2000.

    New Orleans Police Department spokesman Capt. Marlon Defillo said the new power will go into effect immediately and won't be abused.

    "We have to have a legitimate problem to be there in the first place, and if we don't, we can't conduct the search," Defillo said.

    But former U.S. Attorney Julian Murray has big problems with the ruling.

    "I think it goes way too far," Murray said, noting that the searches can be performed if an officer fears for his safety -- a subjective condition.

    Defillo said he doesn't envision any problems in New Orleans, but if there are, they will be handled.

    "There are checks and balances to make sure the criminal justce system works in an effective manor," Defillo said.
     
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  3. daGUY Registered Senior Member

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    I thought that the Patriot Act already permitted law enforcement to enter private premises without a search warrant, or at least made it much easier for them to do so.

    You know, it'll just get to a point when people will have had too much. And then it'll be too late

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  5. certified psycho Beware of the Shockie Monkey Registered Senior Member

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    That is a lie. The cops will think they have some type of power and they can and probably arrest anybody at anytime. I can't belive that this shit was passed there.

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    Uh, cp, this was not a law passed, the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals, a Federal court decided this. The only recourse is the US Supreme Court. It does not matter if you are a Republican or Democrat, Conservative or Liberal, this should scare the crap out of everyone of us. This is supposed to be America, where this exact kind of thing is not suppose to happen. Another reason for the 2nd Amendment!
     
  8. shrubby pegasus Registered Senior Member

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    i can definitely see this getting appealed further to the supreme court. this is a slap in the face to individual rights and privacy. itll never fly, hopefully
     
  9. Nebuchadnezzaar Registered Senior Member

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    got nothing to hide, got nothing to worry about.
     
  10. pragmathen 0001 1111 Registered Senior Member

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    So you wouldn't mind if I, being a cop, were able to come into your house and routinely search it ... right? Say, every Saturday at 3pm? Does that work out for you? No? Too bad.
     
  11. immane1 Registered Senior Member

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    There is this thingy called the 4th amendment. This shit will never fly. If it does, we are probably on a collision course with another revolution. Sooner than expected.

    Nebuchadnezzaar, I hope you are just kidding. If not, thank God(or whomever) that you don’t live here. We already have too many of your type. BTW, how’s the crime rate “down under” lately?
     
  12. Nebuchadnezzaar Registered Senior Member

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    No worries, knock yourself out. I might not be home every time though.
     
  13. Nebuchadnezzaar Registered Senior Member

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    too many of my type? please explain.

    crime rate's good down under, nothing to worry about, we still leave our door unlocked and mostly open when we're home.
     
  14. immane1 Registered Senior Member

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    too many of my type? please explain.
    Not even going to waste my time.

    crime rate's good down under, nothing to worry about, we still leave our door unlocked and mostly open when we're home.

    Specifically, the violent crime rate is higher in your country than just about all other countries in the world including the US.

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    I think with the patriot act they still have to make a case to a judge before starting that type of behavior.

    I sure hope this is overruled quickly and those judges removed from their positions as incompetents. Federal judges ruling against the constitution cannot be tolerated.
     
  16. Nebuchadnezzaar Registered Senior Member

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    What a load of lies,where did you get that info from?

    including the US??? of the 275 million provately owned guns in the world US citizens own 250 million of those, that's over ten times our population with guns and you reckon there is more violent crime?

    why don't you crawl back under your rock, eat shit and die.
     
  17. Stokes Pennwalt Nuke them from orbit. Registered Senior Member

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    I fear the day when the franchised masses adopt this way of thinking.
     
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    The International Crime Victims Survey, conducted by Leiden University in Holland, found that England and Wales ranked second overall in violent crime among industrialized nations.

    that was dated in March 2001 what a load of bull...
     
  22. Nebuchadnezzaar Registered Senior Member

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    SA still tops -- on Interpol's violent crime list
    South Africa (52 485 murders and attempted murders; in pop: 43 million)
    Australia (700, 19 million)
    Romania (1 597, 22 million)
    Germany (2 851, 82 million)
    Tanzania (2 390, 31 million)
    Venezuela (8 022, 24 million)
    Ecuador (3 217, 12 million).

    When these figures are converted to 100 000 people, the rate for South Africa is 121.9. None of the other countries mentioned even approaches this number.

    The country with the second-highest rate is Venezuela with 33.2 per 100 000 people.

    Martin Schonteich, senior researcher at the Institute for Security Studies, said all crime statistics were based on the number of reported crimes and the real number might be even higher.

    "Since 1996, South Africa has been one of three countries with the highest rates for murder, sexual offences and serious assault from the 110 Interpol countries. This is very concerning, because such crimes create fear in communities and lead to people feeling unsafe."

    This fear resulted in actions such as streets being blocked off with access control, vigilante attacks, psychiatric problems, higher medical costs, unproductive performance at work and dwind
     
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    Neb,

    that was dated in March 2001 what a load of bull...

    Below is a post you just made in a thread that was supposed to be discussing what you ate that day.

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    (Article from the Economist, June 8, 1996)


    You are not very good at this are you?

    You still have not proven anything I stated wrong.

    "Australia led the list with more than 30 percent of its population victimized."

    That's my favorite quote from the link I posted. Read it and weep, roo boy.
     

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