Corona Virus 2019-nCoV

Discussion in 'World Events' started by Quantum Quack, Jan 29, 2020.

  1. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

    yes the obvious hypocrisy is beyond comprehension.
    To me the issue comes down to who has "the power of attorney" over the woman's body, the woman, the state or some nut job screaming the right to life when no such right exists.
    Perhaps if the Right to lifers put their money where their mouths are and properly support the unwanted pregnancies and subsequent children they forced women to bear for 9 months and give birth to, for the rest of their lives one may be able to have a rational discussion with them.
    The average cost of pregnancy care in the USA is approx. $11k to $30k depending on the quality or support. ( google) with out insurance etc. and child's special needs This does not include care for the mother to be. The cost of raising an unwanted child to adult hood is considerably more. The collateral cost on society due to societal disconnect due to a life time in foster care is any ones guess, for example. The cost of surrogate pregnancies (for relevant context) is about $90k-$130k in some parts of the USA.

    ...and that's just some of the financials and not the ethics, morality and future societal cost of forcing a woman to do anything she doesn't wish to do with her body.
    As far as Texas abortion banning is concerned well... welcome back to the days of coat hanger abortions, self inflicted or performed by people you can trust the least.
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  3. Write4U Valued Senior Member

    Anyone who has been in a war, natural disaster, or pandemic will agree with you completely.

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    The Reasons Why Masks Took Root in Japan
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  5. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

    Quantum Quack said:
    makes me think of parents toilet training their children or teaching them road safety.
    its a life or death issue eventually & is a compulsory aspect/need

    i would guess japan has some compounded issues
    • radiation poisoning in their DNA
    • industrial air pollution
    • the mix of coastal humidity & Forrest pollen
    what was traditional for Japanese genetics for hundreds of years while Europe was killing off people using pollution smog & diseases ?

    wooden & paper houses(low pollution from petrochemicals or carcinogenic building materials)
    clean food & clean water
    salt wind to reduce infection
    mountainous living to increase air circulation & reduce pooling of toxic fumes
    high omega 3 fish diet

    then suddenly thrown into radioactive contamination & massive industrialization pollution

    no surprise to see respiratory issues


    how much of a change would be needed to have Herpes & EB & Covid mutate to create some nasty combo pack
    possibly not too much if they all get tweaked
    we can see the middle class obese diabetes air pollution people in urban india got served well n proper
    & @ the pace of Covid evolving ...
    now omicron(sounds like a new leggo type) mutating with greater spread
    doesn't have to be more lethal if it spreads better
    you can see the journalists dont understand that

    the only survival ability is to isolate
    & only islands can do that
    which is which countrys ?
    UK Aussie NZ Pacific islands Singapore Taiwan japan Greenland Iceland
    probably the northern European countrys
    Finland Norway Denmark (almost) but with hard(militarized) borders
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  7. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

    I didn't mention the Epstein-Barr virus (EBV) to fuel panicked speculation.

    I mentioned it as a potential example of how the coronavirus may impact in the future well fare of those who may suffer long term covid19. In other words we may see a situation that has the covid 19 virus essentially dormant as is the case with the EBV but subtly impacting on people lives for the foreseeable future. But again this is just speculation. Obviously if infection can be prevented from the get go then all this is moot. Avoiding complacency until more is known would be the wisest course.
    Relying on therapeutic remedies ( post infection ) although fantastic for the immediate need may lead people to believe that "we got this" when we really haven't (not yet any how) and become complacent about protecting themselves etc.
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  8. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

    agreed 100%
    vaccine is everything no question
    because vaccine effectively helps prevent the action of contracting
    thus a way to avoid it.

    im simply being practical with latent respiratory issues
    it may only require 2 latent conditions combined with diabetes or asthma
    to bring on considerable chronic issues
    its playing with pandora s' box for sure

    climate change & the coming issues will put pay to many of the quibbles

    have you seen the recent release about rice fungus research ?
    same with all grains i should imagine
    & you only need a mere 20% damage to all grain to have significant death rate

    people have been soo complacent about sea level rise & the increasing precipitation
    & look at what covid is
    same with many issues

    i dont want the good people to die
    but i cant change that
    i dont control that
    i am just a spectator(broke & out of work struggling with health)

    micro toxins
    mono cultures
    primary diet staples by toxin volume
    food security groups
    risk ratio margin variance

    etc etc

    all you need is a solid rice or wheat fungus that does 1/5 damage ratio
    only needs a 20% success rate

    they will also be most likely to have limited medical access & probably also be more likely to be anti-vaxers anti-science

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  10. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

    Regarding vax tracking globally, it is worth keeping in mind that a number of vaccines used have very low effectiveness and now even worse so with the latest Omicron variant.
  11. Luchito Registered Senior Member

    OK OK OK OK OK OK OK... the virus got me.

    One in my family got it last week. He went to the clinic to have the test. Next day was told the results are negative.

    Anyway, he wasn't feeling good so he stayed home.

    I thought he had the flu, because he developed fever, coffing, and all those sysmptoms.

    Finally, after a few days for recovery he went back to work. In the middle of his task, he received a call saying that he has the virus (COVID of course) and he must stay home for a few more days.

    I have started to develop coffing, not wishing to eat anything, some kind of pressure in my head, but no fever yet. I think he passed me the virus.

    Like him, everybody living between the walls in this house will stay home for a while. It is my responsibility not going outside -and seriusly I don't have the will to do it- and it is time to get fat eating food from stores around who can deliver. As this virus is not spread by contact, best is to leave the money outside waiting for the food.

    Like I said before, I'm not afraid of this virus because I'm a healthy person, and the bleeding I see coming from my eyes is just mere coincidence, same as developing bear's claws in my hands, I don't know but I'm starting to wish row meat since yesterday night, I still am very conscious. I know I will survive easy this disease and very soon I will be going out as ususal......flop!....
  12. Write4U Valued Senior Member

    lol ..... that's funny.

    Do get tested and if you do have it get treated immediately. Even if you can beat the virus, it can severely damage your lungs, even in a few days. If you are coughing, your homeostatic control system is telling you your lungs are being damaged.

    Don't forget, viruses destroy cells and you don't want (any) lung cells destroyed! It'll catch up with you when you get older.
  13. sculptor Valued Senior Member

    <------ "Negative"
    so far

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  14. exchemist Valued Senior Member

    What an idiot.

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  15. billvon Valued Senior Member

    Were you vaccinated?
  16. sculptor Valued Senior Member

    from my perspective
    wearing a mask protects others if you have the virus
    more than it protects you
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  17. Luchito Registered Senior Member

    I'm older already... sigh*

    I'm not taking anything because the coff is very sporadic. What I feel as the main symptom is the entire body as heavy. Since I wrote my last message in the morning I have been sleeping for hours, I just woke up.

    The "treatment" I'm taking is not eating anything the first day. Well, actually I had to because I felt like vomiting when I see food in front of me. To me drinking teas and resting, eating frutes and returning back to my normal diet will be enough. The headache is very soft but still bothering me, this is the reason I prefer to rest long periods of time.

    Right now I have had strawberries and blueberries with some ice cream, and no, I'm not pregnant, but I felt I can eat those without feeling rejection.

    The other family member of mine had a kind of breathing attack, soft but he had trouble breathing. He smokes, and he never listened to me when I told him to stop smoking until the virus spread goes weaker. He is OK now, he claims his room was very hot and such was the cause of the attack.
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  19. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

    I would suggest strongly that if you experience laborious breathing for longer than say 10 minutes, you seek medical attention immediately.
  20. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

    Wearing a properly fitted N95 mask or better will protect you in most circumstances. (depending on ambient viral load present and how long you are in that space)
    The yet to be fully understood Omicron variant may require even more than a N95.
    I am sure billvon will correct me if I am wrong...
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  21. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

    im not too worried about omicron
    because it will only kick ass in those populations who do not respect it
    & those people we can all do without

    climate change needs to be the focus
    not anti-vaxers & anti-maskers & all those anti-science people

    science is what is needed to save the modern world
    all those people standing in the way trying to prevent that need to go

    we simply cant sit around waiting for all those neanderthals to evolve over another 100 years
    we will be EXTREMELY lucky to get another 50 years
    so thats most peoples children & 100% people grandchildren

    there is just no room(or time) for those anti-science people
  22. exchemist Valued Senior Member

    Correct. That's why you all need to do it for one another instead of seeing it, selfishly, as a "personal choice".
  23. clusteringflux Version 1. OH! Valued Senior Member

    Interesting perspective. By now it's very clear that SARS Cov-2 will not be brushing away all of those that refuse to "believe the science". But it's the sentiment that counts I suppose. lol.

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