Corona Virus 2019-nCoV

Discussion in 'World Events' started by Quantum Quack, Jan 29, 2020.

  1. river

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    And still getting paid .

    The stockmarket has not entirely collapsed .
     
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  3. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    So "jobs" and "opportunities" to "excel / succeed" are now equivalent? Hmmm.
    Ok:
    The jobs that "depend on" Qualcomm technology don't count in this list, of course.
    Neither do the jobs that "support" Apple.
    Cellphone retailers, for example, retail mostly phones made elsewhere - not the US.
    Essentially none of those jobs depend on the ostensible location of those two companies, or their "American" identity.
    And only a certain percentage of them would be somehow reserved for - or even preferred for, let alone held by - American citizens - - - - let's ignore that for the time being (although it bears directly on the failure of the US economy to provide opportunities for American citizens).

    So that's 80,000 US jobs left that can be - if we aren't too careful about whether they provide "opportunities" to "excel" - counted as US "opportunities".
    Mcdonalds - the hamburger chain - employs about 450,000 directly.
     
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  5. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    According to reports ( ABC.net) Turkey has just issued a nationwide lock down.
    Major cities in Turkey, including mega-city Istanbul, have been placed on a 48-hour lockdown as the Turkish Government tries to stem the spread of coronavirus.
    The lockdown was announced on Friday before coming into effect at midnight that night.

    Currently according to worldometers:
    Turkey:
    Pop: 82 million

    52,167 Confirmed cases (criteria unknown)
    5,138 new cases (last 24 hours)
    1,101 Deaths

    Case growth : 9.84% ( per 24 hours)
    Death toll: 2.11% (of Confirmed cases)
    Deaths Per capita :
    1 : 74,477

    Notes:
    If Turkey follows the global trend one can conclude it has decided to lock down way too late, missing it's opportunity to mitigate/contain this bug and a result similar to the USA, UK, Italy and Spain can be anticipated. Possibly worse due to religious cultural effects. India and Indonesia have both terribly underestimated the crisis and have taken too long to lock down and a similar outcome can be anticipated.
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    Sweden has finally acknowledged that their relaxed approach has failed.
    Sweden:
    Pop: 10.23 million

    10,151 CC
    466 New CC ( last 24 hours)
    887 Deaths
    Death toll: 8.74% of CC

    Deaths Per capita :
    1 : 11,533

    Notes:
    The death toll is extremely high ( per capita) and it is likely that infection is by now nation wide. The next 14 days or so will no doubt reveal just how prevalent infections are.
    The Government had taken this relaxed strategy because it felt it's population would take it's social distancing responsibly.
    The death toll suggests other wise.
    The Government was wrong...
     
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  7. river

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    Every job lost is not linear in its effects and affects , but exponentially .

    Hence the importance of keeping people and businesses in the money , reasonably comfortably . They are not going broke and have some , some left over as to a time of enjoyment .
     
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  8. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    Given all the hype you would expect the USA to have a high degree of literacy but it doesn't. Literacy is usually a good indicator of opportunity.

    The ongoing capitalist slave trade is the only opportunity most Americans will see.
     
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  9. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    Literacy in the U.S. is the same as in Australia...99%.
     
  10. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    Compare performance as of 12/04/2020:

    USA :
    Late lock down
    pop : 382 million
    deaths per capita:
    1: 18,670

    Spain:
    Late lock down

    pop : 47 million
    Deaths Per capita :
    1 : 2852

    Sweden:
    Late lock down

    pop : 10.23 million
    Deaths Per capita :
    1 : 11,533

    Turkey:
    Late lock down

    pop: 82 million
    Deaths Per capita :
    1 : 74,477

    Australia:
    Early lock down

    pop : 25 million
    Deaths Per capita :
    1 : 446,428
     
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  11. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    yeah sure...
     
  12. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    That's your only strategy.. you done now?
    The wealth of the USA and in some regards Australia is mostly fairy floss, the actual wealth belonging only to the jealous top elite.

    Every cent you have saved, every asset you have gained is totally dependent on the whim of that elite..does that make you wealthy?
     
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  15. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    I did check it out. All I was responding to was your quote about literacy, not wealth, not whatever other points about quality of life you are trying to insert.
     
  16. river

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    Seattle , really ?

    Agreed QQ , Banks , and therefore World Central Banks control everything .

    Everything .
     
  17. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    Try and run some searches using the same criteria and get back to us... say Germany vs the USA or Russia vs the USA or other...
     
  18. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    As an idea of just how bad it is ... Australian Government had to close down it's foreign acquisitions here, as international faceless, nationless entities were seeking to capitalize on the crisis.
    The USA will also face similar opportunistic corporate maneuvers...the net result is increased poverty and loss of opportunity to the average citizen..
    Just another collateral impact of such a masssive crisis that we are all experiencing today...
     
  19. river

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    Capitalism as a philosophy . Money as being all that matters in society is showing its flaws .

    Which bugs me . For me Capitalism , allows an individual , to have a financial future full of enjoyment and at least allow a person to live a quality of Life , up to death . As it should be .

    You have to be a billionire , to live a healthy good Life .

    Give me decent roof over my head and good quality food , good people for company , I'm fine .
     
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  20. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    This crisis, it's all so exciting...don't you think? Definitely something to obsess over.

    I used to belong to a large scuba oriented forum. There was one guy who only posted about divers who had just died. So exciting...
     
  21. river

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    Easy Seattle , easy .
     
  22. wegs Matter and Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    Were you scared to dive after that? lol

    Not serious.

    There’s always that ...one.....guy.
     
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  23. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    Like all things, it is in the balance of socialism and capitalism that makes the difference... Australia enjoys a relatively good mix of social-istic capitalism.
     

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